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Minutemen Protest In Costa Mesa (pics) ACLU Meeting to Help Illegals
3/17/06

Posted on 03/17/2006 10:24:42 PM PST by Ladycalif

MIRNA BURCIAGA, OWNER OF EL CHANACO RESTAURANT, located at 19th St. and Maple St. in Costa Mesa, is against Mayor Mansoor's plan to have the Costa Mesa Police Dept. assist U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to arrest criminal illegal aliens.

MIRNA BURCIAGA is also a racial supremacist member/supporter of La Raza/Mecha/Maldef/La Voz


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: border; immigrantlist; immigration; minutemen
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To: clawrence3
I would use the word "Unite" rather than "Join"

Why do you attempt to blur the line between legal and ILLEGAL Immigration? Could it be that lawschool failed to teach you their meanings? Could it be that you cannot argue the merits of ILLEGAL immigration so you have to resort to tactics so easily pointed out?

Just a tip, when you have to resort to such tactics, the point you attempt to argue holds no merit. If it did then you would not have to suxh a thing. I would have thought they would teach that in lawschool.
101 posted on 03/20/2006 9:37:38 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: clawrence3
See, dude, no lawyer, even one who couldn't type, would let "MISDEMEDORS" go by. The vanity is too great.

Perhaps you should go back to your La Raza masters and get new programming.

102 posted on 03/20/2006 9:40:55 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: clawrence3

I hardly think the entire economy rides on the backs of illegal laborers; all the walnuts in California's San Jouquin Valley were once harvested by hand, then a manual limb shaker was invented and the workers needed dropped by half, now they use a big machine that shakes the whole tree and the workers have been cut in half again.


103 posted on 03/20/2006 9:42:49 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: clawrence3

I suggest you offer more spin with that reply. Are you of the position that committing an illegal act deserves a reward? It sure appears that you are advocating such a thing and I seek to have you make that point clear.

Do you seek to reward someone that commits a criminal act? Yes or no?

Example: If a person hops the border illegally,that is to say without permission, do you seek to reward them with a path to citizenship, welfare doles including food subsidy and tax payer funded healthcare?

Your answer,according to prior posts, is an astounding YES but I predict you will not come out and say it when posed in this truthful way.

Someday lawyers coming out of lawschool will actually give a care about the law, it sure seems you do not!


104 posted on 03/20/2006 9:45:35 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Old Professer; clawrence3

I just love the claims about the farming industry. This claim basically says that Americans cannot function without mexicans and other South American nation's illegal immigrants. I take this as a slap in the face to all my countrymen.

There is this thing called a free market economy. To those that claim the prices will skyrocket, I say so be it. Better put,as a great man once said, bring it on. When lettuce is overpriced people will just buy something else. When fruits cost too much the market will see the sales fall and thus their profits.

Folks that "need" all these illegals will seal their own fate by rising costs, if they rise to high. I offer it is high time to set this issue straight and stop the illegal employment that so stains what our market is supposed to be.

Americans can and will do the jobs. When the fair market is actually fair and there is no lopsidedness in the scale. Illegal labor tips the scale and that has got to stop.


105 posted on 03/20/2006 9:52:33 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: clawrence3
especially since this this the UNITED States made great by immigrants

Yes your right, the immigrants of yesteryear did help make the country great.

....but what you ignore or avoid adding is that earlier immigrants:

1. Most of them had sponsors who were to be responsible until the immigrant got on their feet.

2. Most of them loved America and worked towards becoming a citizen by adopting the language.

3. Didn't try to suck this country dry by living off entitlements, while they sent money earned back home where their real alliance lies.

106 posted on 03/20/2006 9:52:44 AM PST by SweetCaroline ( "Once there was a way to get back homeward")
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To: Ben Ficklin
They are planning on slipping AgJobs thru while your focused on Sensenbrenner and Tancredo.

Of course they are. The majority of Americans are against all these amnesty/guestworker shams. Our votes (or opinions) don't count anymore because the politicians get more donations from the slave labor lobby than we can provide.

10 billion dollars a year we pay (in California) every year to support illegal aliens. Washington doesn't care.

The Republican party has failed America. The Democrat party continues to fail America.

107 posted on 03/20/2006 9:58:57 AM PST by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: clawrence3

Still more BS. That and a handful of seeds may grow a great garden, but if that is all the better you can do in an argument, than they need to revoke your law degree.


108 posted on 03/20/2006 10:05:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Ladycalif

Minutemen heros BUMP.


109 posted on 03/20/2006 10:10:02 AM PST by reelfoot
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To: VeniVidiVici; Dead Corpse

Here's an entire thread:

"Legal immigration good until it sinks the boat"

Posted on 01/29/2006 11:27:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1567470/posts#comment

"Enough is enough. At what point will we determine this country is crowded enough? When we're packed in like sardines like in India. I say halt ALL immigration for 5 years and then reassess."

6 posted on 01/29/2006 11:46:25 AM PST by DogBarkTree http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1567470/posts?page=6#6

"Make it 10 years and you've got a deal. Conor Friedersdorf may have 'long supported high levels of legal immigration to the United States' but, like you, I think there is a need for a time out.

8 posted on 01/29/2006 12:02:57 PM PST by DumpsterDiver http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1567470/posts?page=8#8

"Just once I'd like for one of these writers to tell us except for Africa where it's believed humans originated what country isn't a nation of immigrants? Unless we're expected to believe the Chinese, the Mexicans, the Cubans and everyone else magically popped up out of the ground then I'd say all of them are. So why isn't anyone else morally obligated to take in a million a year and another million illegals?"

26 posted on 01/29/2006 7:35:52 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1567470/posts?page=26#26

Or, maybe there:

"Immigration is such a sure way to destroy this country."

9 posted on 08/21/2005 3:49:46 PM PDT by Dante3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1467869/posts?page=9#9

"Of course, this country can function without both legal and illegal immigrants. We already have too many people. I am just wondering how many of the ultra-violent Russian Mafia are in this country legally.

In the D.C. area and other place the roads are cluttered with traffic, historical battlefields and scenic areas are destroyed for ugly urban sprawl and tacky housing developments. Many schools are overcrowded in Northern Virginia."

53 posted on 02/01/2006 12:41:29 PM PST by Dante3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1569350/posts?page=53#53

". . . even if you got rid of all the illegals (and, one hopes, neo-Aztlan nationalists as well) and put a moritorium on immigration, you could keep the birth rate at replacement levels -- easily -- by banning abortion."

24 posted on 08/31/2004 12:41:13 PM PDT by MegaSilver
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1203808/posts?page=24#24

Those are just the first half-dozen I could find quickly. I could keep going. Look, one legitimate policy option is to completely shut down LEGAL immigration - don't be ashamed of it - it's not just the ideologues here at FR, even Tom Tancredo wants an official "time out" on legal immigration. I don't think his plan is ZERO legal immigration though. But, please don't tell me that no one wants to stop ALL legal immigration, perhaps under the guise of "temporary" but come one, 10 years sounds a little more than just a temporary "time out" to me.


110 posted on 03/20/2006 10:15:02 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: BlueStateDepression

I'm not blurring anything - I know exactly what is legal and what is illegal - the sentence of mine you quote is about "uniting" both groups, as the U.S. Senate is currently debating. Are they attempting to "blur the line" too?


111 posted on 03/20/2006 10:17:36 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: VeniVidiVici

That's why I went to law school - so my secretary can take dictation and Spell-Check ; )


112 posted on 03/20/2006 10:18:24 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Old Professer

I didn't say the "entire" economy - we only have to have a few percentage negative growth for more than 2 quarters to be in a recession though.


113 posted on 03/20/2006 10:19:20 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Ah... so now we have context. Temporary moratoriums to get our current illegal immigration problems solved are not he same as being 100% anti-immigrant.

Awefully dishonest of you to spin the issue that far out of true.

114 posted on 03/20/2006 10:19:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: clawrence3

Here is how you "Unite" the two. The ones acting in an ILLEGAL manner need to STOP and join the folks doing it LEGALLY. There is no blurring of that line on my part, none whatsoever.

Are you going to answer the questions I asked you or simply dismiss them like you do the seperation between legal and illegal?


115 posted on 03/20/2006 10:20:26 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
Do you seek to reward someone that commits a criminal act? Yes or no?

No. I have no problem with a Senate compromise whereby illegal aliens must return to their home country first before applying for something like the Bracero program. Hopefully, that is truthful enough for you.

Someday lawyers coming out of lawschool will actually give a care about the law, it sure seems you do not!

You will note I never post personal attacks.

116 posted on 03/20/2006 10:22:10 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
By "mob" I mean those whom the President rightly refers to as "vigilantes" - if you are not doing any of that, I am not referring to you.

Please refer to me as the "mob", then; I insist. I'd rather hang together with them...

As for automation being overhyped, my employer utilizes every kind possible in the car wash business here in Tennessee for consistently excellent results. Meanwhile most carwashes in California are still dependent on twenty rag-wielding munchkins of questionable legality. Guess which business model is both more ethical and profitable?

117 posted on 03/20/2006 10:22:33 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: BlueStateDepression

If at all possible, I would rather avoid a recession, though, from your proposed "market" correction.


118 posted on 03/20/2006 10:24:20 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Dead Corpse

You will note I never post personal attacks.


119 posted on 03/20/2006 10:25:03 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Dead Corpse

Some of those posts sought 10-year "moratoriums" - how long would no longer be "temporary" in your opinion: 100 years?


120 posted on 03/20/2006 10:26:19 AM PST by clawrence3
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