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Brady, Oberweis Bicker In Final (IL) GOP Debate
CBS2CHICAGO ^ | 03-16-2006 | AP

Posted on 03/16/2006 10:00:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

(AP) CHICAGO Republican gubernatorial candidate Jim Oberweis said after a televised debate tonight that he has gone so far as to ask rival conservative Bill Brady to drop out of the race.

Oberweis and Brady traded jabs tonight during their last debate before Tuesday's primary election.

Political observers say the two appear to be splitting the conservative vote -- which could be helping G-O-P front-runner Judy Baar Topinka, a social moderate.

Their sparring left candidate Ron Gidwitz stuck in the middle as he largely steered clear of the bickering.

Topinka sat out the debate, saying she is tired of listening to criticism from her opponents.

The wide-ranging discussion covered everything from the film "Brokeback Mountain" to what kinds of cars the candidates drive.


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1 posted on 03/16/2006 10:00:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; fieldmarshaldj
Topinka sat out the debate, saying she is tired of listening to criticism from her opponents.

That seems quite arrogant. That seems close to a bouncing offense. Illinois is not as depressing as California, but it is depressing.

2 posted on 03/16/2006 10:02:29 PM PST by Torie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Oberweis and Brady traded jabs tonight during their last debate before Tuesday's primary election.

Oh, no. Brady's spitting up blood now. Can he hang on for the fifteenth round? :-)

3 posted on 03/16/2006 10:03:20 PM PST by Herford Turley (Conservatism will save America)
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To: Torie

What a couple of goofballs. They should join forces; one of them could be the Lt. Governor. Sheesh.


4 posted on 03/16/2006 10:04:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Insanity on Brady's part. He should have dropped out two weeks ago or supported Oberweis from the beginning. A slaughter coming up in the fall.


5 posted on 03/16/2006 10:07:20 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Torie

Could be worse, at least Illinois hasn't crossed the rubicon into New Jersey, New York, or Taxachusetts territory... yet.


6 posted on 03/16/2006 11:55:28 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I'm voting for Oberweis for sure. Plus I like his ice cream (He owns Oberweis Dairy). They still will deliver actual bottled milk to homes like in the old days, and their ice cream is to die for (or from). That alone gets my vote. Plus I like his anti-illegal immigration stance.

You should see Illinois these days. Swarming w/illegals. Well, actually, maybe you did, as they were all out on the streets of Chicago last week, thousands of them, protesting the immigration bill in Congress. I knew it was bad, but not how bad till I saw the evening news with the streets of Chicago swarming w/illegals. A frightening sight.


7 posted on 03/17/2006 12:10:19 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47
WLS also played the repub debates. Topinka is just a dem in disguise, always has been, but Oberweiss is for hardcore border control, controlling of our resources in the state and not giving them out to illegals, hes for merit pay for teachers and for vouchers and school choice. Pro life, and he's a proven business man with no political baggage.

I hope he wins and starts tossing out the unions and Daley cronies that run this state.
8 posted on 03/17/2006 1:21:21 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: Torie; fieldmarshaldj
The IL GOP debates are a lot like FR. The candidates accuse each other of being RINOs. The candidates are just chanting slogans - "I'm pro-life, I'm anti-illegal latino".

Not much appeal to the swing voter. IL's RAT Governor, Blago, is suffering in polls due to perceived incompetence. He appointed a black muslim who suggested that Hollywood Jews and gays misled Bush into invading Iraqi. Several Jewish groups complained, but Blago isn't listening to them. He values blacks more than Jews. The IL Governor race is going to be a contest between the least corrupt candidate. As long as the George Ryan trial makes news, the RATS win.
9 posted on 03/17/2006 7:31:25 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: Herford Turley
Sadly, as much as I like Brady, that's a good analysis.

He is setting himself up to be the Conservative front-runner in the 2008 U.S. Senate race vs. Dick Durbin. The result of his ambition is going to be Judy Baar Topinka as Governor, and a lot of us who liked him unable to forgive him for putting his ambition before the good of the state of Illinois.

If he thinks we won't remember he was basically solely responsible for giving us Topinka when he runs next time, he is sorely mistaken. I won't vote for him for dogcatcher if he does what it looks like he's going to do.

For all of his Conservative credentials, Bill Brady is about to leave a very big scar upon his legacy as a public servant, a scar that will exist only because of blind ambition and a refusal to criticize Judy Barr Topinka throughout the entire campaign.

He has attacked Oberweis and even Gidwitz, but not Topinka. Makes you wonder if those rumors about him being in the race by Topinka's design are true or not.
10 posted on 03/17/2006 7:50:57 AM PST by TitansAFC ("'C' is for 'cookie,' that's good enough for me" -- C. Monster)
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To: Kuksool

I'm frankly not enamored by any of them. Were I an IL voter, I'd probably vote for Brady, but the rest are simply distasteful.


11 posted on 03/17/2006 3:27:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Oberweis is running ads with Phyllis Schafly endorsing him. Schafly is urging all conservatives to support Oberweis. She implies that Brady is a RINO for "stealing votes" from Oberweis.


12 posted on 03/18/2006 2:22:17 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Exactly fieldmarhsaldj. I'm voting for Brady also. The recent antics with Looserweis has left a severe distaste in my mouth.

I like Brady b/c he is talking about the issues and Looserweis has been trying to get him to throw mud. Straw poll? Calling him a liar when Oberweis has his facts wrong. It's sad.

If anyone should drop out of the race, it should be Mr. Oberweis and let a class act like Senator Brady win this primary.


13 posted on 03/19/2006 7:56:17 PM PST by Central IL Voter
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To: fieldmarshaldj

for being so DEM, Illinois has surprisingly low taxes...its income tax is a flat 3% making it the lowest in the country among states that have income taxes.


14 posted on 03/19/2006 7:58:36 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: Herford Turley

Spitting up blood? I don't think so. I hope that Senator Brady at least beats Mr. Oberweis. Looserweis has done too much to make a lot of people I know very upset with politics in general.

We'll see. When the voters hear these latest antics, hopefully they will be leaving the loony train of Loopyweis and joining the victory train of Brady.

Go Bill!


15 posted on 03/19/2006 7:58:44 PM PST by Central IL Voter
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To: Central IL Voter; Kuksool; georgia2006; BlackElk; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza

Well, I'm not an IL voter, so I don't have a say. Down here in TN, we can't even get the Republican party to run a candidate against a corrupt 'Rat administration. All I can tell you folks is vote your conscience in this matter. Some will vote for Oberweis in an attempt to stop Topinka, which is completely understandable, but Oberweis has, as was pointed out, reinvented himself and his positions so many times that one has to question his commitments and his core principles.

If the marginally more acceptable Brady pulls enough votes to keep Oberweis away from the nomination, I can't necessarily fault Brady for doing that, either. If Oberweis had maintained consistent principles throughout his campaigns, as opposed to sticking a moistened finger in the air to ascertain where the political winds were blowing, perhaps he wouldn't find himself in such a pickle. As I said, I don't envy IL GOP primary voters, this is not exactly an inspiring cast of characters that would lead the state back to greatness again. If IL is to remain mediocre, let the 'Rats take full credit.


16 posted on 03/19/2006 9:08:28 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"If Oberweis had maintained consistent principles throughout his campaigns, as opposed to sticking a moistened finger in the air to ascertain where the political winds were blowing, perhaps he wouldn't find himself in such a pickle."

The voice of reason. I'm sorry about your state of affairs in TN and I hope it gets better for you soon.

I think in my neck of the woods, in spite of the snow, turnout will be big in Champaign county b/c of referendums. Some people in the SW part of town have a couple to vote on as well as the entire city has a heated school board referendum (nothing like those to bring out the voters).

We never know what will happen but all I know is it's less than 24 hours before opening of polls and personally when tomorrow is over, part of me will be happy.

Been a lot of hard work and getting the message out.
17 posted on 03/20/2006 12:00:35 PM PST by Central IL Voter
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