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"V" Is For Propaganda (NOT The 80s Classic Sci Fi Allegory) Alert
Debbie Schlussel.com ^ | 03/07/06 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 03/07/2006 7:21:33 PM PST by goldstategop

If you liked the politics of last weekend's Oscar nominees, you'll love "V for Vendetta."

But if you're like the rest of America--you support our troops and believe in firmly responding to terrorists on our own shores--then, don't waste your time at this piece of garbage masquerading as a superhero movie. It is anything but.

If the other political films subtly whisper of an agenda, "V" clocks you over the head with it with a still sizzling, iron frying pan.

Based on the graphic novel series of the same name, "V" comes complete with all the bogeymen the far left loves to hate: NSA spying and wiretaps; government torture complete with Abu Ghraib hood fashions; lecherous, elderly Christian clerics in collars raping young girls; Islam, gay rights, and free speech under attack; and even a Bill O'Reilly-esque evil cable talk show host/wicked pharmaceutical billionaire/heinous military officer combo rolled into one character.

Oh, and by the way, the hero of the movie: He's a terrorist in a Guy Fawkes mask, who blows up important government buildings. Sound familiar? His mask might as well be a kefiyeh wrapped around his head in a Nick Berg video.

The movie takes place in futuristic England, and there is only one American star (Natalie Portman). But it's quite clear to whom the "commentary" is directed: Joe and Jane American. Lest I forget, when this movie takes place "the United States of America" doesn't exist anymore. America is in the midst of a civil war.


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To: Tanniker Smith

I thought Diana was hot. OK, even if she was a murderous reptilian alien man-eater. I've dated worse.


21 posted on 03/07/2006 7:51:51 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
I thought Diana was hot. OK, even if she was a murderous reptilian alien man-eater. I've dated worse.

Hell, I've MARRIED worse!

22 posted on 03/07/2006 7:53:45 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: freedumb2003

Hell, I married a liberal.


23 posted on 03/07/2006 7:54:11 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: goldstategop
Its really an allegory about Bush's America. But not to detain people further, the movie doesn't address the real threat to the West: Islam. If there's tyranny in store in our future, its from those who want to impose the Sharia on us. I'm sorry to have to tell the Left despite their twisted fantasies, that's not coming from Republicans.

The comic was made in the 80's and is more in line with "1984" line of fiction.

Besides which, it's an action movie. Let's see how the movie is before we critize it.

24 posted on 03/07/2006 7:54:18 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: goldstategop; All

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The Hollywood that really counts:


MEL's -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

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25 posted on 03/07/2006 7:57:48 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Billthedrill

btw: Important point of clarification -- that was my ex-wife.

I suspect my wonderful current wife thinks SHE is the one married to the reptilian ;)


26 posted on 03/07/2006 7:57:54 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: jude24

Sometimes i think conservatives try a little too hard to see bias. You are right though, i'll wait until the movie is out.


27 posted on 03/07/2006 8:04:46 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: goldstategop

Correct me if i'm wrong but didnt medved not like batman begins?


28 posted on 03/07/2006 8:05:43 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: freedumb2003

Bahahahaha...keep her away from FR or that one'll cost ya flowers... ;-)


29 posted on 03/07/2006 8:10:44 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: goldstategop
in reality its a Bush-bashing, Christian-bashing and Evil Amerikka dystopia ruled by repressive Republican fascists.

Way, WAY off.

"V for Vendetta" originated as a graphic novel, which Alan Moore started in 1981 and finished in 1988, was way before "Bush-bashing" began. Christian-bashing has been going on for a couple millenia. It's hardly Evil Amerikka when it's set in England and features a new version of a classic British villan. It is, indeed, a dystopian novel firmly in the tradition of "1984" and "Brave New World".

To degrade it as firmly inspired by 21st-century events is to be completely ignorant of its context.

Your comments demonstrate a knee-jerk reactionary view worthy of Leftists. The story is a classic plot: the lone libertarian fighting against a tyrranical dictatorship.

30 posted on 03/07/2006 8:10:51 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Billthedrill

I see you know the drill ;)

Of course with your name and all...


31 posted on 03/07/2006 8:17:36 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: goldstategop
This movie sounds downright evil.

Where's Jack Bauer?

32 posted on 03/07/2006 8:21:11 PM PST by manwiththehands
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To: ctdonath2
The plot in the book is not necessarily the plot of the movie.

Once they have obtained the rights, the producers are free to make any changes to the plot and theme of the movie that they see fit. While I haven't seen it, the current climate in Hollywood makes it easy to believe the story has been re-interpreted as yet another analogy on the present world situation.

Showing Republicans as bad guys, of course.

We'll see.
33 posted on 03/07/2006 8:26:17 PM PST by Bratch
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To: ctdonath2

You accuse him of being knee jerk, but amusingly enough you are the one who posted before reading or thinking.

He was contrasting the movie with the graphic novel.
Don't you understand they are two different things? It seems not.

You insist the movie cannot be influenced by Bush-bashing, because the novel was written before Bush. Hello, the movie was just made. Don't you understand that movies often are significantly different from the novel they draw upon? Sometimes even turning the message and themes on their head?

Suppose Michael Moore made a version of 1984 and brave new world, full of leftist propaganda. Would you say it is impossible for this movie to be influenced by leftist propaganda because the novels weren't? Think.


34 posted on 03/07/2006 8:29:39 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: goldstategop

No mention that it's by those "Matrix" guys, including the pre/op transsexual S&M fetishist one?

Of COURSE it's gonna be a anti-US Bush allegory, don't kid yourself, 80's-vintage notwithstanding. Already it's being "hailed" as "brave", "pulling no punches" and "controversial", and you know what THAT means. Same old twisted lefty hate-fest. Whoopee.


35 posted on 03/07/2006 8:33:29 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: ctdonath2
The story is a classic plot: the lone libertarian fighting against a tyrranical dictatorship.

Welcome to the 'howling in the wilderness' club.

It's going to be a long summer.

36 posted on 03/07/2006 8:35:09 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: goldstategop

"V for Vendetta" began life as a black-and-white comic book in Britain in 1982, so if anything it was an attack against Thatcher. The protagonist is an anarchist who's against all forms of Government and whose own tactics are often morally ambiguous. The government he brings down is a fascist dictatorship of the worst kind; the ending is unresolved as the government falls but anarchy and lawlessness take over the streets.


37 posted on 03/07/2006 8:45:30 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Islamofascists don't need cartoons. They're already caricatures.)
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To: goldstategop

If "V" was the series I'm thinking about, the resistance was led by a female doctor, and a reporter. As a veteran I couldn't help but notice how the left wing writers couldn't make combat vets, and Special Forces vets leaders. I think they did have one ex-tough guy (ex CIA), but he was something of the bad guy naturally.


38 posted on 03/07/2006 8:58:34 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ctdonath2
1. Moore wrote "vendetta" as an attack on Thatcher and Reagan's Conservative politics. The same hysteria that followed Bush's arrival to the White House in 2001 was found, originally, in the late 70s and early 80s. It wasn't as organized or as pervasive, but it was there.

2. Even if the book was not blatant propaganda, the movie, from what I read IS. Hollywood will change things to fit the current zeitgeist...the very fact that this movie was made, NOW, is testament that this is political propagandizing.

I can picture Hellyweird executives and their minions brainstorming: "OK, we haven't agreed on any of our original ideas, Smedly, go to the comic book store and find out if there are any good stories there. Something that we can relate to the current times..."

39 posted on 03/07/2006 9:11:58 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Bratch; ctdonath2; SDGOP; Paul C. Jesup
The plot in the book is not necessarily the plot of the movie. Once they have obtained the rights, the producers are free to make any changes to the plot and theme of the movie that they see fit. While I haven't seen it, the current climate in Hollywood makes it easy to believe the story has been re-interpreted as yet another analogy on the present world situation. Showing Republicans as bad guys, of course.

Absolutely. And they ARE going to change it, from what I have read. The writer himself, Alan moore, has completely distanced himself from the project, and has not taken one dime from it.

Yet there are those so weak minded, devoid of principles and desperate for entertainment they will enthusiastically fork over 10 dollars plus to those that despise them and their way of life. Some of us are smart enough to know what is going on without having "to see the movie" first. This is Hellywood. this is what they do.

40 posted on 03/07/2006 9:20:42 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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