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1 posted on 02/28/2006 1:23:17 AM PST by beaversmom
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2 posted on 02/28/2006 1:23:35 AM PST by beaversmom
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"You go through all that and all you have at the end of it is a baby?"

Then a toddler, a child, a teen, an adult, a posterity.

3 posted on 02/28/2006 1:25:01 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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4 posted on 02/28/2006 1:26:13 AM PST by beaversmom
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They'll under-breed themselves out of existence.

Meanwhile, the ever more extremist Muslims of Britain have five (slightly exaggerated) kids each.


5 posted on 02/28/2006 1:31:24 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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And there are compelling statistics to back up Anne-Marie's decision. Surveys show that people who choose not to have children (as opposed to those who desperately want them, but can't) tend to have better marriages, better finances and are no more likely to be unhappy in old age than parents.

For just one generation. At max.

After that, they are all dead!

6 posted on 02/28/2006 1:33:07 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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The good news is self-absorbed, high-maintenance women will not reproduce more offspring like themselves.


8 posted on 02/28/2006 2:28:35 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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Being a academic educated man and living in good ole Europe I am quite familiar with women who refuse to multiply. The proportion of childless academic women is around 40% here in Germany. During the time I attended univercity nearly all my girlfriends (I had a few) told me that they only want to become pregnant if it will be compatible with their career. Since being pregnant and having kids is never compatible with careers, quite a lot of them never will have a own family.

Another effect of this standpoint is, that others of them are desperately trying to get pregnant when their time to be fertile is simply over after they reconsidered the whole thing. Not all couples are able to get kids when they hit the 40ties.

Last but not least many men simply do not want to have children anymore when they are 40, 50 or even 60. Since it is typical that many woman are much younger than their husbands it can be a real problem for men to start a (new) family in their mid 50ties. I wouldn't do that either. Besides there is a broad movement among European men to renounce traditional families because the divorce rate is at nearly 50%. It is not funny to be a cash cow. The changed moral conditions made it easy in western Europe to live with girlfriends without being married. Nobody cares about the sexual behavoiur of others as long as no one has to deal with material loss or damage.

I am among those who did it quite traditional. I am married to the nicest and prettiest girl you can think of and our three wild little boys are the proof that it was worth doing it.

The funny thing is, that we have many childless female friends with academic grades in their late 30ties, who are absolutely crazy about my kids. Sometimes the boys are really fed up with their "aunts" trying to kiss them all over. Although of course they like the expensive gifts, they hate being a substitute for some frustated friends of ours. We even had to cool down some relationships a bit. Do not get me wrong - not all women are that way, but some are for sure.

I think it is a fact that human nature can not be tricked. If a woman decides to live without her own kids (this can be very reasonable in some cases) she usually has to pay a bitter price.


9 posted on 02/28/2006 2:32:07 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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The self-absorption of the women interviewed in this piece is truly breathtaking. I'm glad that they have decided not to reproduce.


11 posted on 02/28/2006 2:43:07 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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Hopefully she will be dead before the Muzzies come to lop off her head. Such a thing is really not very pleasant at all. Of course, if nobody has babies in the West, such a thing is quite inevitable.


15 posted on 02/28/2006 3:15:14 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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Meanwhile, the Muslim population continues to grow.


18 posted on 02/28/2006 3:23:42 AM PST by shekkian
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These are precisely the people who should not have children because they still are children. Leave the child-bearing and rearing to the grown-ups. We'll take care of it.


21 posted on 02/28/2006 3:29:43 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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Childless, er, planning not to, never, sterility as lifestyle, um, no kids forever - uh, um, er . . . . remind me again why same sex couples should not be allowed to get married.


25 posted on 02/28/2006 3:35:53 AM PST by chinche
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Wouldn't you like to see the women quoted in the article repeat their statements while hooked to a polygraph...I suspect that a large part of it is crapola, er..phony justification..

Besides, if you don't have children, you'll never experience the TRUE joy..being a grandparent!!!...(G)

31 posted on 02/28/2006 3:42:10 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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...and your towel-headed neighbors, not having this self-indulgent attitude, will out-breed you in two generations. Welcome to Great Britistan.


33 posted on 02/28/2006 4:10:19 AM PST by 50sDad (Racist: Anyone who is winning an argument with a Liberal.)
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"A high percentage of us now think there's no God and if you add to that there's no need to reproduce then what on earth is it all for? Choosing not to have children gets to the heart of all those big issues.'"

A rather succinct summation of atheism.

42 posted on 02/28/2006 5:26:44 AM PST by Pietro
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Those with attitudes like this shouldn't pass on their genes.


Then there's some of us that should take up the slack!


45 posted on 02/28/2006 5:34:42 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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Better to have no desire for children than to have 5 and be Andria Yates.


46 posted on 02/28/2006 5:35:50 AM PST by wolfcreek
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I have a sister who feels the same way. She is a 46 year old orthodontist who hates children. She fulfills any needs by having relatives with children come visit her then she sends them home. I think she may regret it in a few years when she can no longer have the choice to have her own children. That time is coming quicker. I guess the results will come forward soon enough.


51 posted on 02/28/2006 5:40:23 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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"'I'm uncomfortable with the physical changes of pregnancy and labour,' she admits."

I'm sure glad I'm a guy :)
59 posted on 02/28/2006 5:55:06 AM PST by grjr21
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I must be completely honest here - I once thought of myself as one of those people (and so did my husband.) We decided that we were never having children because they were messy, annoying, and would wreck our relationship and all our nice expensive stuff (and house.)

Then something amazing happened...God blessed us with a pregnancy. After the intial shock and fear, we both fell in love with who we thought would be our little boy, Nicholas Christopher. One month after we found out about him, I had a miscarriage and he was gone. He will forever be in our hearts as the child who changed our minds about having children - now I can't wait to have one.

I'm not saying everyone would feel the same way we did..my husband and I are Christians, and would never even think to end a pregnancy out of our own power. I have a feeling the majority of these women in the article don't believe in God or Jesus, and would not have a problem terminating their pregnancy. Actually, when I considered myself 'childfree,' women on a website would refer to their accidental pregnancies as 'parasites.' I could never do that myself, but for some women, that's what they are.

I have never felt love for another person like I felt for Nicholas, and I can't wait until I can hold a baby that's both a part of myself and my husband.

Never say never. :-)

65 posted on 02/28/2006 6:31:12 AM PST by arizonarachel (wear our the cats? 2-24-06)
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