Making Islam illegal -- is it the West's only choice?

When President Bush gave his "axis of evil" speech he went out of his way to make the world understand that it isn't a war with Islam itself that we were joining — and I say joining because the war had been started by the Jihadists decades before. And, in observance to our Western principles, that must be the correct way to view our conflagration with radical Islam.

Let's face facts, it certainly is uncomfortable to a Westerner who has been brought up on tolerance, freedom of religion, and liberty to contemplate a war against an entire religion. But are we approaching a time when Western nations won't have a choice but to target Islam itself in certain ways to keep their own people safe. The best course of action is to make public displays of Islam and certain of its practices illegal in Western nations.

So, the question becomes are we at that time now? Are we fast approaching a time when Mosques will be closed and banned? Have we come to a time when Islamic literature is turned away from our borders? Have the childish and dangerous reactions of Muslims to this cartoon in a Danish newspaper proven that Islam cannot be trusted to be a vital, peaceful, and law-abiding segment of society?

We are already approaching this today. In Ontario they have officially outlawed Muslim Sharia law, that law that uses religious precepts to enforce moral and society codes of conduct. And Muslim "family councils" have been stopped where local community groups may supplement Canadian law with their local custom.

Several members of the John Howard administration in Australia have spoken out against Islamic clashes with Western notions of law and societal comportment many times over the last few years.

Recently Howard himself said, "I do think there is this particular complication because there is a fragment which is utterly antagonistic to our kind of society, and that is a difficulty ... You can't find any equivalent in Italian, or Greek, or Lebanese, or Chinese or Baltic immigration to Australia. There is no equivalent of raving on about jihad, but that is the major problem."

Muslims routinely destroy property, threaten death and bodily harm to those who speak out against them, and they constantly fund terrorism throughout the world. In Syria they have burnt an embassy, in Europe Muslims have been responsible for murdering people who have written out against Islam or made movies, and other forms of art. These actions are also approved by Islamic teachers (Imams) and religious leaders, not just undertaken by warped loners claiming to represent Islam quite against the will of the majority or authority.

With this ridiculous cartoon issue, we have seen that Islam has no sense of perspective. In the west parody or satire is seen as not only common, but completely harmless for the most part. And religion is not immune to parody and satire, though even in the west most people are often uncomfortable with religious satire. Usually only people filled with hate attack religion in parody and most in the West instinctively know this. As a result, most people dismiss such parody as foolishness and bad taste.

But with Muslims overreacting — in western eyes at least — to this silly cartoon issue in the way they have, it becomes nearly impossible for Westerners to view Islam as a peaceful religion, but more as a vicious hate group itself. And that perception is justified with the actions that Muslims have increasingly perpetrated over the ensuing years. So, we find that Islam presents a danger to the safety of the populace all too often. It is violent, oppressive, and reactionary.

But, what is to be done about it? We have been raised to feel that religion should be left untouched by government. Freedom of religion is at the very core of our beliefs. And this concept is an important one to uphold. So, how can we honestly and without hypocrisy begin to look toward making Islam illegal?

There is a parallel of sorts in the USA that might be used as a template for action. The Ku klux Klan.

After the Civil War ended, the KKK arose from the ashes of war as an advocacy group for the disenfranchised white voter in the south. But it quickly became a terrorist organization bent on taking out revenge on the south's newly freed black population for having lost the war. It got so bad that even one of the original organizers, C.S. Cavalry General Nathan Bedford Forrest, denounced the organization and quit it in disgust.

But as the late 1800s rolled on and the south began to re-enter the Union as full partners in government, the KKK began to lose steam and prominence. For a time it subsided. But as the 20th century neared, it re-emerged and this time became a nationwide and powerful force taking on the flavor of religious, civic and racial duty. The KKK became invested in government and claimed millions of members nation wide.

In the 1920s, however, it became too much for a liberty loving country to allow the KKK to any longer exist. In Indiana, the entire state government was scandalized by their fealty to Indiana's Klan leader who had raped and beaten his secretary on a train trip. Violence against and frequent lynching of southern blacks became so pervasive that Congress finally acted and banned the Klan. The organization collapsed never again to reclaim the power and prominence it once had.

Now, the KKK has always based its precepts on Christianity, as well as racial identity. It also reacted with violence, rallies, death threats and killing when it was threatened. It careened far away from being a mere "idea" or religious theology and became a terrorist organization. And it became a terrorist organization even though literally millions of Americans that belonged to or identified with the Klan were not themselves violent, evil, or dangerous citizens.

The leadership of the Klan supported violence. The leadership preached violence. The leadership planned and fomented it. Therefore, it had to go because it became a danger to every law-abiding citizen, whether they agreed with the racial and religious concepts the Klan espoused or not.

Islam has become the KKK of the 21st century. The sooner we awake to this truth and take steps to ban the religion, or somehow curtail its pernicious influence the better. The west is going to have to put sever restrictions on Islamic Mosques and public display of Islam. Further, devout Muslims should not be allowed to hold public office (though it certainly should not become a racial issue — sins of the father should not be visited upon the sons).

This is no religious purge as in centuries past. In the past religions were banned to be replaced by the state sponsored sect and believers of the banned religion were mistreated, tortured, unduly taxed, and terrorized. This is absolutely not the model the west would follow by banning aspects of Islam today. No religion is replacing Islam and no one is suggesting that Muslims be mistreated. But the creed to which they hold is fast becoming the most dangerous one in the world today. It is a fine line that we walk to consider banning Islam, but the safety of society is at risk not to do so.

This is not an easy conclusion at which to arrive. But if we continue to turn a blind eye to the danger that Islam presents to the west, we are signing our own death warrants.

The KKK was put down in the USA and made powerless for the same reason. Communism was destroyed for the same reason, as well. Islam is a danger to the world.

Here's a cmment by Hugh Fitzgerald over at Jihad watch regarding the Ohio terrorists and islamist:

Who are these people? How did they get here? How can they possibly, given what is in their mental makeup and has been for their entire lives, be loyal citizens of the United States? They may have sworn allegiance, but that is a different thing. They are a threat to the well-being and security of every Infidel in this country, and to its laws, and to its government.

It is not hard to know what is in their minds. Simply read, and pretend to accept, what is in the Qur'an and Hadith, and know what Muhammad did and said, Muhammad the Model for All Mankind, and hence models as well for Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, and Wassim Mazloum. Accept it all, as a total system. You don't have to go to the mosque. You don't even have to pray. You need only identify yourself as a Muslim, to think of yourself as a Muslim, to be willing to defend and protect Islam from too-knowledgeable or prying Infidels, and you are then an instrument of the Jihad. And so, objectively, you are a threat to all those Infidels who do not agree that "Islam is to dominate and is not to be dominated." No, do not agree, and are not about to throw out the legacy of an advanced civilization and society, whatever its many faults (let's not forget them, those faults) is far superior, in every conceivable way, to the primitivism offered by the Complete System of Islam.

Why are they here? What are they doing here?

Hugh

Well? Anyone care to chime in?

Straight from the mouth of an imam and printed on an islamic website in Australia...

PRESERVING THE ISLAMIC IDENTITY IN THE WEST:

(SNIP)
For a multitude of reasons, most of which are not in accordance with Islam, Muslims have been flocking to non-Muslim countries. Some come as refugees, many come for a better standard of living, o thers to get education, be near to their relatives, and some for Da' wah. The result of this is a new problem which has not existed for centuries - Muslims are being exposed, on an unprecedented scale to non-Muslim cultures and beliefs. In fact, many are n ow born in these countries, and instead of being raised with a sound Islamic identity, many are taking the Christian values of their 'adopted home'. It is of little surprise that we see many Muslims turn from Islam in later life.

This article aims to expose some of the sources of misguidance for Muslims living amongst the Kuffar, as well as some solutions and defences we can employ...read more

http://web.archive.org/web/20041024220339/http://www.islam.org.au/articles/18/identity.htm.old

DawaNet—to link • to serve: Dawa in public schoolsDawa means to invite non-Muslims to accept the truth of Islam. Performing Dawa involves both our words and actions. Importance of Dawa in Islam ...
www.dawanet.com/methods/publicschool.dawapublic.asp - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

FROM THE FINAL PARAGRAPH:

The likeness of Islam and Kuffar is like that o f fresh clear spring water and water brought up from the bottom of a suburban sewer. If even a drop of the filthy water enters the clear water, the clarity diminishes. Likewise it only takes a drop of the filth of disbelief to contaminate Islam in the West. If we have it within our means we should therefore consider moving to a Muslim lan d whereby we can at least live amongst our brethren and within an Islamic society free from the contamination of the disbelievers.

(So, you see, there's hope. If you let them know you won't put up with their behaviour, there's a chance they'll go home!)

Why are they here? What are they doing here?

Using our laws to protect them as they cunningly spread Islam under our noses, conniving to rewrite these laws until they can eventually take over unhindered.

Omar Ahmad (co-founder of CAIR) -

"Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam.

Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

Nihad Awad (Executive Director of CAIR) -

"I am in support of the Hamas movement."

Ibrahim Hooper (CAIR Spokesperson) -

"CAIR does not support these groups (Hamas) publicly."
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future."

Dr. Ghazi Khankan (CAIR Spokesperson) -

"I bring to you salaams and greetings from the Mujahadeen at CAIR."

"The likeness of Islam and Kuffar is like that o f fresh clear spring water and water brought up from the bottom of a suburban sewer. If even a drop of the filthy water enters the clear water, the clarity diminishes. Likewise it only takes a drop of the filth of disbelief to contaminate Islam in the West."

Let me chew on this for one second.

OK. SO, this pig in a burka tells his misguided followers that we're kin to sewer H2O in clear H2O? That's pretty deep thinking there porky, kinda like Mad-Mo telling us that Gabriel met him in a cave to help him gather his devine-swine thoughts..right?
Clear H2O= islam?
Sewer H20= The West

That's hard to deny, really.

Then, there's this gem:
"Muslims are being exposed, on an unprecedented scale to non-Muslim cultures and beliefs."

Beliefs like science? Learning that the sun doesn't set into a puddle is hardly dangerous..I think. Finding out that the world isn't flat should come as great news for Achmed Gump on his next jog, right? Non-muzzie cultures may cause second guessing of what the madrassa's taught their terrorist abroad, so I can see his point. J/J!!!

PRESERVING THE ISLAMIC IDENTITY IN THE WEST.

Good luck, but I assure you porky...the truth lies around every koran over here.

ooooooooh...I do like the way you think and write...my toes curled up and my arms got goosebumps - let's turn this dawa thingy on it's head - let them know we aren't intersted in converting to a cult that wants to control how often or how we wash our hands and feet, nor how many times you shake your willy after you have a wee wee. (Four times! That's because one day, when Madmo had a pee, one of his 'companions'

STOOD BESIDE HIM AND COUNTED!)

And now it's a hadith...

Using our laws to protect them as they cunningly spread Islam under our noses, conniving to rewrite these laws until they can eventually take over unhindered.

Well, what they didn't expect is what will turn out to be their greatest mistake: Americas curiosity to find out the truth. We are inclined, as were our predecessors, to look into what troubles us for further understanding of the situation. Well, it's been several years since I began reading about is-a-lie, and every time I get done reading..I need to bathe. They disgust me with their trivial lies, victimhood and barbaric ways. Call me whatever you wish to...but IT WILL ALWAYS BEAT "BEING A MUSLIM"!

I suggest setting up a front company... call on ex-muslim talent, the "Ibn Warraqs", "Ali Sinas", Ayan Hirsi Alis, to see if they have any interest

Sounds workable as Ayan Hirsi Alis has recently reaffirmed her commitment to Submission - Part 2, despite the threats to herself. What can the Mudslimes do now? Threaten to kill all these people twice?

Dutch MP plans new Islam film

let them know we aren't intersted in converting to a cult that wants to control how often or how we.....

WHO, under what type of drugs, told them that we want their lie?! That ba$tard of a pig(probably mad-mo) needs his teeth cleaned on a infidel curb. To even make such statements in front of me would be insane. Convert to is-a-lie? Let me count the pigs in mad-mo's harem 1st!

Well, what they didn't expect is what will turn out to be their greatest mistake: Americas curiosity to find out the truth.

The problem is conniving Mudslimes are learning and adapting and are promoting their lies as truth, and truth as lies, with the help of the left and paid whores to confuse Americans.

The pigfarm itself has Zogby planning its PR strategy in US - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1583143/posts

Saddam should have hired him so his propaganda methods would have sounded more convincing. Telling our troops Homer Simpson was sleeping with their wives wasn't exactly a winner now was it?

Using our laws to protect them as they cunningly spread Islam under our noses, conniving to rewrite these laws until they can eventually take over unhindered.

Well, in the plans you have listed above, they have already failed, miserably. Think about it for 1 second...who is now laughed at when discussions of cartoons come up? Who is mocked when the evening news shows footage of savages parading in the streets with the ever so readily available signs "Death to the infidels"? Who is it who claims that any expression of free speech that includes ACCURATE depictions of a lunatic pedophile should be illegal? Who is it that decapitates innocent school girls to get to "paradise"? WHO?!

The gig's up.

Islam is terrorism.

Mothers are now upset.

Senators are being bombarded(no pun intended) with calls for action.

CAIR is on their heels.

We've got em on the run...FROM THE TRUTH!!

WHO, under what type of drugs, told them that we want their lie?

Well, and USF can tell you much better than I, the entire world is islam, always was always will be, Abraham was a muslim and so was every prophet you can name. Madmo, by virtue of (he claimed) being the LAST prophet, supercedes all the rest and that makes them all muslims...and on the Last Day when the Mahdi comes, Jesus will sit at his feet and when the Mahdi offers to share the world with him, Jesus will decline, because it all rightfully belongs to islam...didn't you know?

Btw, islam discovered America, and Australia and everywhere else. They can prove it. There were Afghans in Australia before Captain Cook sailed the ocean blue...and Tallahasse, well, that's proof that muslims lived in America, otherwise, why would a place have the name of ALLAH IN IT?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

I know: What would fall out if you tipped a muzzie upside down and gave him a good shake?

A hand grenade, and a bucket full of loose screws...

“The country is wasting its resources in trying to reach out to the Americans through their media. Such a strategy has turned out to be counter-productive,” James Zogby, president of the Arab-American Institute (AAI), told mediapersons at the Council of Saudi Chambers of Commerce & Industry (CSCCI).

They can all Ki$$ my Rebel D!ck!

WHO is going to inform the American public that the wahabbi sect of islam loves the USA?
Bin Laden? Or that the 15 brain washed animals that were involved in the 9/11 attacks were really on a good will mission? Al-Zawar"COW"i?

There up a creek, and they know it!

I need a cigarette. B back soon..

Yes, but there is the new lie that's being spread even on sites like this.

It works like this - there is this 'other' Islam, a 'baaad' misconception of Islam whose followers have misunderstood Islam or have been brainwashed.

The good Islam is 'okee dokey' because they keep quiet and celebrate the terrorists privately in the comfort in their own homes. Sometimes they even come out and make misleading remarks in public.

The cartoon war exposed the chasms and peeled open the sores. Now is the time to pour more salt on Islams gaping wounds.

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