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Making Islam illegal -- is it the West's only choice?
Renew America ^ | 2/19/2006 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 02/20/2006 7:46:11 AM PST by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies; jan in Colorado; Proud Infidel; bayouranger; Cornpone; AmericanArchConservative; ...
Wow, you've gone and stirred up the hornets nest real good this time DS!!

I'm going to bookmark this thread and wait for the dust to settle a little, to separate the wheat from the chaff. We'll see whats left.

Back later... ;o)

261 posted on 02/20/2006 9:22:39 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: MikeinIraq

"we aren't even fighting a majority of the Muslims in Iraq, a country of 25 million. "

Indeed we are not. In fact, our troops and others are working very, very hard, and risking their lives to help the Muslims in Iraq, teach them about a democratic system of government, and more.

Why are we doing that? Because we believe in freedom of religion.

All this nonsense in this thread is what's really anti-American. Ask our troops on the ground in Iraq.


262 posted on 02/20/2006 9:22:39 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Wurlitzer
"I wish moderate Muslims would find a way to be heard, but they DO exist as a majority in the US. "

Prove it. Everything we have seen tells us otherwise.

What have you seen that the rest of us haven't?

263 posted on 02/20/2006 9:23:52 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Uhhuh35

But your analogy is flawed in that molesting boys isn't official policy of the Catholic church and is not condoned, rather such behavior is not ratified.
However, that we are "infidels" is the official policy of Wahhabi muslims.


264 posted on 02/20/2006 9:24:24 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: MineralMan; All

One thing that a lot of freepers here tend to miss. Until the founding of this nation, there really wasn't a free Chritian nation.. You had to belong to a certain church... I could be wrong.. I hate to see this nation ban a religion.


265 posted on 02/20/2006 9:24:32 AM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: babygene

Nope it didn't.

And it won't in the future, depending on who's in charge.


266 posted on 02/20/2006 9:24:51 AM PST by najida (Gluten free, Sugar Free, Low Salt, Low Fat, High Fiber = Eating grass for the rest of your life.)
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To: najida
"If that happens, then they've won and we've lost"

Thanks to those who want to protect our enemy, we have already lost. Lost freedoms on airplanes, trains, government buildings, sporting events. Billion$ of dollars taken away from taxpaying US Citizens so these bastards can hide behind a false curtain of religion and plot their overthrow of everything this country used to stand for.

267 posted on 02/20/2006 9:25:21 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: NavyCanDo
An added note on the 1880's GHOST DANCE RELIGION which also preached world domination after an apocalyptic end to the non-Indian. See Post # 237. It was made Illegal
268 posted on 02/20/2006 9:26:15 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Sans-Culotte

OK,
How many real, live folks have you met, talked to, worked with etc.

I'm just curious. Because I'm hearing lots of radio and TV stuff, but few who are giving first hand, long term, personal experience.


269 posted on 02/20/2006 9:26:16 AM PST by najida (Gluten free, Sugar Free, Low Salt, Low Fat, High Fiber = Eating grass for the rest of your life.)
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To: Jaysin

Okay then. How about this? Let's stop giving our tax money to the Shi'te ruling government of Iraq and the Afghan government (normally praised uncritically here) which (again using our tax dollars) have called for suppression of the cartoons?


270 posted on 02/20/2006 9:26:26 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Dark Skies

The statement still stands: "When the right to practice a religion becomes illegal the terrorists have won."

The Koran dies indeed justify all kinds of criminal and oppressive conduct. But so does the Bible, the Torah, and many others. The difference is that Islam has been corrupted to higher degree than any other, even maybe more-so than dark-ages Christianity.

But in the US Islam can adapt, moderates have the chance to prove it. That's why CAIR is doing them such a disservice by not separating effectively the crazies from the majority. But banning Islam in the US only play right into the extremist hands. The slow, assimilation path is the correct one, albeit indeed the hardest.


271 posted on 02/20/2006 9:26:27 AM PST by wvobiwan (Sheehan for Senator!)
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To: Wormwood
Sorry, but I'm not in favor of adding ANY of our freedoms to the death toll of September 11th.

*shrug* YMMV.

I'm not in favor of adding any more innocent Americans to the sacrificial altar of political correctness.

272 posted on 02/20/2006 9:27:18 AM PST by null and void (That 12 jurors can overturn the leviathan of "The Law" strikes fear into statists across this nation)
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To: wvobiwan
We can't lose sight of the fact that most Muslims DO NOT endorse terrorism, and are in fact very much against it.

Declaring it is a fact does not make it so.

I don't believe your "fact" for a second.

273 posted on 02/20/2006 9:27:42 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: Dark Skies

The real question here should be:

Is Islam a religion or is it something else?

I believe it is something else.


274 posted on 02/20/2006 9:28:20 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: KevinDavis

Our first English ancestors lived in the Netherlands for a while, before sailing here. The Dutch were very tolerant of other religions.


275 posted on 02/20/2006 9:28:48 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: JimRed
I can't define it, but I know it when I see it!
OOookay. Take the easy way out.

276 posted on 02/20/2006 9:28:48 AM PST by newcats (Natural born skeptic)
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To: Wurlitzer

Just like we're losing the war in Iraq 'eh? Ask the media to prove it, I don't need convicing.


277 posted on 02/20/2006 9:29:11 AM PST by wvobiwan (Sheehan for Senator!)
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To: Wombat101

I never implied your mind was tiny darlin'.

And yes, Islam isn't a 'good' religion, but again, you're talking to someone who really doesn't see many religions as good or evil. Just human driven.

Again, how much personal experience do you have? How much time have you spent in the ME, how many muslims do you know personally?

We can all thump out "Kill them all" on a computer, but that's the easy part.


278 posted on 02/20/2006 9:29:13 AM PST by najida (Gluten free, Sugar Free, Low Salt, Low Fat, High Fiber = Eating grass for the rest of your life.)
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To: Dark Skies; All

What is a 'religion'?


279 posted on 02/20/2006 9:29:34 AM PST by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: null and void
I'm not in favor of adding any more innocent Americans to the sacrificial altar of political correctness.

So, opposing the bulldozing of American mosques is suddenly political correctness?

280 posted on 02/20/2006 9:29:40 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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