[Brownie74]

I have seen a series of stories on TV lately that show teachers are having problems passing their state re-certification exams. Some teachers have failed mulitple times. To me this points out the failure of the government run public school system. Not to mention our liberal college system.

I have some friends that graduated High School with me in 1958 that went on to become teachers. They would have no problems passing a re-certification test today. But that was before the government take over, the Bell Curve, social promotion and other feel good programs. Also, English was the only language taught in school unless you chose to take an extra course to learn a foreign language. The teachers and parents ran the school system, not the government, and organizations like the ACLU would have been thrown off campus.

My - how times have changed.

[television is just wrong]

California, used to lead the nation. Now last I heard California ranks 49 out of the 50 states. (I'm not suprised it isn't 51 out of 50. California is a REAl example on how illegal immigration can pull the rest of the country down the rabbit hole to oblivion.

[Serenissima Venezia]

I am also shocked at the decline in education standards since I went to school in the 60's.

I got my teaching credential 2 years ago and the amount of liberal crap that was 'taught' was ridiculous. And the classes were so easy that I think my then 10-year old son could have passed them (they were nothing like the undergraduate engineering classes I took and were supposedly 'graduate' level work!).

But even worse was the lack of standards and expectations in the schools when I did my student teaching and taught for one semester. Kids aren't expected to know much of anything in math and they expected to have their homework worth 50% to make up for their failing test scores!

Needless to say, I'm moving back to engineering as soon as my son is out of high school. I can't imagine having a teaching career where I know it's a lost cause.