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White House Defends Port Sale to Arab Co.
Associated Press/Breitbart ^ | 2-16-2006 | By TED BRIDIS and DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 02/16/2006 1:40:18 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite

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To: takenoprisoner
Ugh...I got no time who would consider President Bush an Islamofascist.

That's sicko.

241 posted on 02/17/2006 9:52:49 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Anytime I see both the Leftist blogs and my conservative friends on blogs like Freerepublic complaining about the same Bush decision it troubles me terribly.
242 posted on 02/17/2006 9:56:10 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Siena Dreaming
You seem to have some trouble with facts.

Right. So what facts that I have presented do you take issue with, and what facts are you presenting in rebuttal? Maybe your unsourced comment that "I've learned on another thread that the company will not be operating the ports?" Or maybe your rather strange reassurance that "the Feds are still overseeing security."

I confess, I'm rather outraged by this policy decision. But I'm also rather perplexed by the apologetics being offered in defense of it.

243 posted on 02/17/2006 10:37:25 AM PST by atlaw
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To: atlaw
I already posted the fact you got wrong. Since you apparently didn't see it, I'll post it again. Here's your erroneous comment.

Since you and Dane seem to be of the view that this particular $6.8 billion buy out of P&O involves a couple of rowboats

244 posted on 02/17/2006 10:45:46 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
ahhhmmm!

just how much exactly are we supposed to ignore...turn a blind eye?

245 posted on 02/17/2006 11:11:38 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Afterall, American ports run by muslims is a good thing right?)
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To: MNJohnnie; Stellar Dendrite
The DNC spin being put on the story by Asso Propagana is a fraud. It is being implied that they are taking over port security. NO THEY DO NOT. The Fed Govt runs Port Security. They are a private company that RUNS the port operations. Amazing how noone notices it is Chucky Schumer pushing this story.

It is just the 1st step in Chucky Schumer and his Democrat Senate insane clown posse pushing for "Let's put the Govt in charge of the ports". It has the added benefit of allowing Chucky to posture as being "tough on security issues" while actually doing NOTHING serious. The Dems want this so they can swell union membership and there DNC campaign contributions like they did after 9-11 with the Air Line Baggage Screeners. IT is PURE total BS.

You need to read this again!! I'm typing this real slow for you, so please try to understand what I'm telling you. The "R" beside Rep. Vito Fossella's name means he is a Republican, NOT a Democrat. He has NOTHING to do with Schumer. They just live in the same state. He, unlike you, isn't fooled by the smoke screen coming from the Bush administration. He, unlike you and Bush, isn't trying to win the hearts and minds of terrorists, Muslims, Islamists. He, unlike you, and Bush, doesn't feel the love.

Vito sees the danger of a nuclear weapon being brought into the NY harbor on one of their ships and detonated in NY's harbor. Of course you live in MN, so that doesn't concern you, because there is no physical danger to you or your loved ones. You obviously don't care about Americans and their loved ones who live in NY or the other port cities that the Islamists will control. That's a selfish, narrow minded way to think, but so typical of you liberal Bush bots. I would be willing to give you a clue, since you obviously don't have one!!

Rep. Vito Fossella, R-N.Y., urged congressional hearings on the deal.

"At a time when America is leading the world in the war on terrorism and spending billions of dollars to secure our homeland, we cannot cede control of strategic assets to foreign nations with spotty records on terrorism," Fossella said.

Critics also have cited the UAE's history as an operational and financial base for the hijackers who carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

246 posted on 02/17/2006 11:19:26 AM PST by NRA2BFree (All I ask is a chance to prove that money can*t make me happy.)
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To: atlaw

NOW IT IS STARTING TO MAKE SENSE, AND IT REALLY MAKES ME SICK!

January 13, 2003, John Snow, CEO of CSX leaves and Bush nominates John Snow to be Secretary of the treasury

December 9, 2004, CSX World Terminals is purchased by DPW

January 24, 2006, David Sanborn leaves DPW and joins Whitehouse as new administrator of the Maritime Administration in the Transportation Department

Present, the fight whether to allow DPW into 6 US Ports




247 posted on 02/17/2006 11:20:26 AM PST by sasha123
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To: MineralMan

stop driving and become energy independent. or vote in people who will fight to subjugate that part of the world along with Venezuela. Because we need these people more than they need us. Sad to say but if you want them to keep taking our dollars for commodity, you are going to have to play nice on the trade front.


248 posted on 02/17/2006 11:26:10 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: sasha123

Shays and Foley voted against off shore drilling and ANWR. I'm not about to trust them on issues of national security. Know nothing of Vito. Tom's a good guy. Don't know why he's concerned.


249 posted on 02/17/2006 11:37:59 AM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: sasha123
Let's not forget that the last Administration was a master of quid pro quo business. Remember when Clinton locked up huge tracts in southern Utah as a national monument. These tracts had large reserves of low sulfur coal, preferred by utilities to meet clean air requirements. Interests of Mohammed Riady, an Indonesian who contributed to the Clinton reelection campaign, owned companies that imported low sulfur coal from overseas, received their reward in this matter. Then there was the matter of the Marc Rich pardon, accomplished in the last day of the Clinton administration. As for national security concerns, the Chinese received technology transfers from the Clinton Administration, even as Chinese businessmen contributed to his election campaigns.

There is circumstantial evidence of a quid pro quo in connection with the DPW deal to manage the ports. However, collusion between politicians and businessmen has gone on for a very long time, as far back as the days of Ulysses Grant. All the "reforms" passed to prevent the abuses, such as the recent McCain Feingold "campaign finance reform", is ineffectual in stopping the collusion.

250 posted on 02/17/2006 11:47:59 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

You are right, it has gone on a long time

cha ching


251 posted on 02/17/2006 12:07:00 PM PST by sasha123
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
That could easily be the case. We all know how "Labor Union management" can/do pull the strings of the Democratic Party. Tony is a very astute fella, so I wouldn't discount anything he says.

At present, I don't know enough about this issue, hence my presence on FR!! I want more FACTS before I grant a "blanket condemnation" of President Bush (which I probably would not do anyway!). Of course he has done things I don't agree with (EVERY President I can remember has!), but he has done far more I DO agree with.

I would agree with Sen. Coburn. On the face of it, this looks like a bad deal. The "powers that be" just need to take a very much closer look.
252 posted on 02/17/2006 12:54:07 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Stellar Dendrite

NO, he is not.


253 posted on 02/17/2006 1:02:45 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

Somewhat coincidental:
1994-1996 John Snow was chairman of business roundtable, a policity group of 250 exec's and played a major role in supporting passage of the NAFTA

1994-1996 - UAE has acceded to the WTO on 1/1/95
UAE becomes a member of WTO on 4/10/96

1/13/03 John Snow becomes Secretary of the Treasury

11/15/04 UAE signs free trade agreement


254 posted on 02/17/2006 1:23:47 PM PST by sasha123
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To: sasha123
So now you are making the same argument about Snow as the Dems made re: Cheney/Haliburton?
255 posted on 02/17/2006 1:40:46 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

Honestly, I'm not saying anything, really.

Just giving out some facts. do with it what you'd like, it probably means nothing. More likely just a waste of my day coming across this info.


256 posted on 02/17/2006 1:51:11 PM PST by sasha123
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To: singfreedom

"NO, he is not"

thats why i asked the question :)


257 posted on 02/17/2006 2:03:09 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: atlaw

So you are saying that Tony is offering a lame-brained excuse? Okay. Are you able to present enough facts to support your contention that this is "an appalling" and "inexcusable" "lapse of judgement?" If so, present it on this thread. Otherwise, flamethrowing is so over.


258 posted on 02/17/2006 2:47:15 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: sasha123

So are you saying that Snow is part of some sort of secret cabal responsible for what? NAFTA? UAE in American ports? What is your point?


259 posted on 02/17/2006 2:49:33 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Itzlzha
Jorge is as corrupt and useless on this deal as he is on the Border Issues!

So, it is not enough to simply disagree with the President on a policy issue. You suggest that he must be "corrupt and useless."

The question of whether it is sufficient to inpect 80% of all incoming cargo is separate from the question of whether it is appropriate to have this company oversea these ports. Inspections are done by federal agencies, not the ports.

If only 80% of cargo is currently being inspected, there is nothing to prevent infiltration at port facilites now.

260 posted on 02/17/2006 3:07:25 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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