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US group implants electronic tags in workers
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| 2/12/06
| Richard Waters
Posted on 02/12/2006 4:28:09 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: forrestroche
member since 2003. 5 seconds of due dillegence would have told you that.Doesn't mean that you didn't wander in mistaking this for a statist forum. Your viewpoint is that of a good little government worshiper.
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posted on
02/13/2006 10:46:08 AM PST
by
from occupied ga
(Peace through superior firepower)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
02/13/2006 10:51:22 AM PST
by
dpa5923
(Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
To: MortMan
"My point is that the 4th amendment prohibits unreasonable search and seizure - and RFID chips can (and will, at some point) be used to search you without your knowledge, and certainly without even probable cause. "
??? Is your local supplier going to start putting RFID's on his baggies full of dope at some time ?
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posted on
02/13/2006 10:53:40 AM PST
by
RS
("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
To: Centurion2000
I believe that figure of 9 million, is understated..
Because:
There are 10s of million Armed Americans..
There are millions of combat veterans in the U.S., or veterans trained for combat.
Civilian weapons are capable of rapid fire, and deadly at longer ranges.
We live much closer to one another, today..
Most folks couldn't survive for more that a week, without McDonalds or Safeway.
Most folks would panic, or not know how to care for themselves under stress, illness or danger.
Foreign enemies of the U.S. could certainly introduce WMD to their "allies" in the U.S. or "deliver" them themselves -- while the U.S. is too "absorbed" to respond.
Disease, hunger, heart-attacks, grudge killings, looting, etc, etc, etc, will lead to many deaths not directly related to fighting between adversaries.
The 9 million number is on the light side -- in my opinion.
It represents only 3% of our current population.....
As a nasty aside -- based on recent election results - there are a lot more than 3% of our voting population that "needs killin"....
< /sarcasm>
Semper Fi
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posted on
02/13/2006 10:55:00 AM PST
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: from occupied ga
>>>Your viewpoint is that of a good little government worshiper.
And yours of a good little militia freak who can't get over the outcome of the "war of northern agression." In case you didn't know it, OUR GOVERNMENT is the one fighting the terrorists, and GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (Soldiers) - NOT you little militia boys, are the ones DYING fighting them.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:01:16 AM PST
by
forrestroche
(But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
To: RS
I'm not talking about suppliers of illicit drugs. I'm talking about having a chip implanted in your body that will tell anyone with the right equipment, including law enforcement, who you are (and potentially everything else about you) just because you came in range of their scanner.
You seem preoccupied with drugs. I'm talking about "being secure in one's person and papers".
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:03:54 AM PST
by
MortMan
(Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
To: river rat
>>>As a nasty aside -- based on recent election results - there are a lot more than 3% of our voting population that "needs killin"....
Can't argue with that.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:04:31 AM PST
by
forrestroche
(But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
To: forrestroche
And yours of a good little militia freak who can't get over the outcome of the "war of northern agression."That's right, only cammied backwater mountaineers with the Stars-'n'-Bars over their huts could possibly object to mandatory chipping of the entire citizenry.
What's your IQ? Be honest, now.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:09:27 AM PST
by
inquest
(If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
To: MortMan
" I'm talking about having a chip implanted in your body that will tell anyone with the right equipment, including law enforcement, who you are (and potentially everything else about you) just because you came in range of their scanner."
Well first off, the chip dosen't tell them "everything else about you" - it's an ID that leads them to a data base which may or may not hold "everything else about you".
Just like your driver's license number does now.
... and IF you choose to live where you are forced to have this implanted, you have agreed to it allready.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:12:18 AM PST
by
RS
("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
To: Tench_Coxe
"The car hesitated, or rather gave a faint whirring click, as if information, somewhere, was dropping card by punch-slotted card under electric eyes."
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:13:31 AM PST
by
Old Professer
(Fix the problem, not the blame!)
To: RS
... and IF you choose to live where you are forced to have this implanted, you have agreed to it allready.OMG! You can't possibly be that retarded, can you?
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:14:21 AM PST
by
inquest
(If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
To: forrestroche
You and MurrayMom both feel the same way. In the 20th century alone 80 - 100 million people were murdered by their own governments and fools like you think that
it can never happen here Well I got news fer ya, jack. Human nature isn't any different in the USA than it was in Russia, Nazi Germany, Cambodia, Armenia, etc. Governments and the "useful idiots" who unquestioningly support them are always willing to justify any incroachment on freedom. It's "for the children" It's for the "war on terror" It's to control illegal immigration" Like the government is interested in doing that ha ha. It's for safety, etc.
There isn't any limit on what government are eager to do to their citizens to remvoe their freedoms and unfortunately there are plenty of people like you who cheer them on.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:18:30 AM PST
by
from occupied ga
(Peace through superior firepower)
To: inquest
>>>That's right, only cammied backwater mountaineers with the Stars-'n'-Bars over their huts could possibly object to mandatory chipping of the entire citizenry.
Just as only good little goverment worshippers could possibly give some benefit of the doubt to hard-working honest law enforcement officials when they say this might be really useful to us. Only a good little government worshipper could imagine that the Government is up to something OTHER than trying to jail all Americans.
>>>What's your IQ? Be honest, now.
High enough to detect the inherent hipocrisy I have so artfully exposed above. I didn't start the name calling, but while I AM intelligent, I aint too mature for a good ole fashun flame war.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:19:29 AM PST
by
forrestroche
(But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
To: forrestroche
In case you didn't know it, OUR GOVERNMENT is the one fighting the terrorists, and GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (Soldiers) - NOT you little militia boys, are the ones DYING fighting them. Maybe you better think twice before trying to fit a shoe store in your mouth. There are a LOT of veterans on this board.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:20:30 AM PST
by
Centurion2000
("If you're going to shoot somebody, Shoot! Don't talk!")
To: forrestroche
Are you a salesman, or just a demonstration model?
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:22:58 AM PST
by
Old Professer
(Fix the problem, not the blame!)
To: RS
...and IF you choose to live where you are forced to have this implanted, you have agreed to it allready. Right. That's a lot like the folks who buy a house out in farm country then try to outlaw the smell of bovine excrement - and telling the farmer that they agreed to the new restriction when he allowed the busybodies to buy their houses.
Congratulations on your leap of illogic.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:26:15 AM PST
by
MortMan
(Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
To: Centurion2000
>>>There are a LOT of veterans on this board.
Yes there are, and maybe you should ask THEM if they were "little government worshippers" because they trusted their CinC and did their duty.
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:26:52 AM PST
by
forrestroche
(But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
To: Old Professer
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:27:54 AM PST
by
forrestroche
(But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
To: forrestroche
Just a question--would you trust a Hillary Whitehouse/gov't with running a RFID program?
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:28:42 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: ShadowAce
>>>Just a question--would you trust a Hillary Whitehouse/gov't with running a RFID program?
That's your crack speaking. That crank will never land in the oval office. And even if some dim does (it won't be her), WHO CONTROLS THE SUPREME COURT NOW? Who controls the Pentagon? Who controls the Congress?
Stop the paranoia
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posted on
02/13/2006 11:32:29 AM PST
by
forrestroche
(But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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