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Child guru says nurseries harm small children
The Sunday Times ^
| February 12, 2006
| Sian Griffiths
Posted on 02/12/2006 9:10:43 AM PST by tbird5
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To: SauronOfMordor
Then again, I never was in day care, so I'm not an example/counter-example in the day-care discussionFair enough. :-)
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02/12/2006 11:31:55 AM PST
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RMDupree
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To: DustyMoment
A nicely thought-out post, Dusty.
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posted on
02/12/2006 11:33:45 AM PST
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RMDupree
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To: dinoparty
..because he was the son of an 'incredibly wealthy oil exec'...doesn't mean he got a free ride.
The incredibly wealthy oil exec may not have given him a dime!
We have some friends with the ..'stay at home mom'.. with 3 children, being homeschooled....
..the son's dad is an incredibly wealthy man....
...the son, however, is making it on his own....
Don't be so quick to judge people.
To: tbird5
I agree that nurseries are horrible- and I have worked outside of the home (for financial reasons) since having kids. My older kids were with Grandma (my mom) during the day and my youngest (and her soon to be sister) are with their dad (my second husband) during the day (I am the primary breadwinner, although he works a couple of evenings a week for his own spending money and adult time). Despite my working, my kids have never spent a day in daycare.
So much as a society has to happen (without govt. funded programs!) for things to change. People need to be able to survive on one income (whether it's the husband's or the wife's). Sometimes it's a question of cutting back and making sacrifices, sometimes it's not. No fault divorces should be eliminated. The person who chooses to destroy the marriage (whether walking out for no good reason OR for being abusive, addicted, serially unfaithful, etc) should be penalized.
People need to stay close to their extended families when it is healthy to do so. I live 2 1/2 minutes from my parents' home. When my kids are older, they can walk to their grandparents' house in 10 minutes. I have noticed that those in Asian cultures tend to be better about this, many have grandparents living with them who help take care of the children. Don't know if I want to live with either of my parents, BUT I can see the benefits for everyone.
I have noticed with my generation (Gen X) that there is a trend for parents to believe in spending more time with their children than the previous generations had. More and more women are making the choice to SAH when it's financially possible. I also think that some of the children of divorce (current husband) are very aware of the effects of broken families and single moms. Mr. Cat is even more against daycare than I am, having grown up in it. In addition, because he never saw his (divorced from his mom) dad, he wants to make sure he is very much a part of his kids' lives.
To: nmh
LOL, you haven't met my smiling boy.
To: Patriotic Bostonian
LOL, our boy has a permanent smile on his face and couldn't be more well-adjusted. I do know, however, that if he had a grump like you for a parent, he would be miserable.
To: Guenevere
This pastor had a large trust fund. Sorry, I should have mentioned that, but I figured that it was implied in my comment. It has nothing to do with "envy" as some here have suggested; rather it was his dishonesty in having members of his congregation believe that he was somehow a better model of a parent than they were because he "sacrificed" to have his wife at home, when in fact he had multi-millions at his disposable.
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To: wolf24
Perhaps the pastor would prefer that unplanned pregnancies that invariably occur with these married couples (and single mothers for that matter) in less than perfect financial situations just go ahead and abort those babies? Maybe some the people on this thread would prefer that route also?? I often wonder that myself when I hear people chastise others for bringing children into less that perfect situations...
To: dinoparty
"unless you understand financial hardship."
How do you define financial hardship? Is like the family does not have enough to eat, is wearing rags, and does not have enough money to heat the house, or is financial hardship not having a fairly new car, not having enough money to eat out once in a while, and not being to afford fashionable clothes, because I think that very few people who claim that both parents have to work due to financial hardship are really financially hard up, they just prefer to have the more prosperous life style that two incomes provides.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:23:44 PM PST
by
Ninian Dryhope
("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
To: tbird5
"Parents who put their babies in day care are awful people"
LOL! Tell us how you really feel! I wouldn't put in exactly those terms, but there is no doubt in my mind that a child needs to be able to spend lots of time with his or her Mommy.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:27:05 PM PST
by
Ninian Dryhope
("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
To: RMDupree
"No one seems to ask what a single mom is supposed to do?"
That is easy. Don't be a single mom.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:28:41 PM PST
by
Ninian Dryhope
("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
To: Ninian Dryhope
Yeah, but that was my lifelong ambition. < /sarc >
What an idiotic response.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:29:44 PM PST
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RMDupree
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Abortions, eh? Some people don't agree with that.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:32:16 PM PST
by
Ramius
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To: Thoeting
"My younger dated a boy this fall from a broken home. Ugly divorce, one of the worst I'd ever heard of... She know understands that he didn't know what a secure relationship looked like and altough she did like him, he wore her down."
When VS and I were going to pre-Cana (Catholic pre-marital school) the priest warned against marrying someone whose parents had divorced - that would be me, the product of a spectacularly broken home. My childhood gave me an absolute determination to get it right and make a safe family for my own children... and we've been married almost twenty-four years now, with four children. So you never know.
Mrs VS
To: dinoparty
"Nothing harms a child more than a persistently and visibly unhappy parent."
I see. So it is for your son's sake, is it?
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:35:18 PM PST
by
Ninian Dryhope
("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
To: RMDupree
"So it's better to stay in an unhappy and volatile marriage?"
It's better avoid getting into an unhappy and volatile marriage in the first place.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:38:16 PM PST
by
Ninian Dryhope
("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
To: television is just wrong
I've never met an argument for cutting taxes that I did not like..............
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:39:12 PM PST
by
festus
(The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
To: Ninian Dryhope
Sheesh, Ninian. You must think we all have psychic powers.
Do you really think I ~knew~ it would be unhappy and volatile?
Don't be foolish.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:42:40 PM PST
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RMDupree
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To: dinoparty
"a child with a happy mother AND a happy babysitter is HAPPIER than a child with only an unhappy mother."
Maybe, if the happy babysitter is the baby's grandmother or aunt, but if the babysitter is doing the job for the typical low pay that babysitter's make, then the baby would be better off with a mother who was happy to take care of her child and the father would be happier to have a wife who enjoyed the duties and joys of being a mother.
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posted on
02/12/2006 12:42:44 PM PST
by
Ninian Dryhope
("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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