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City wants its 8% cut of online ticket resales
Chicago Sun Times ^ | February 8, 2006 | FRAN SPIELMAN

Posted on 02/08/2006 9:05:57 AM PST by george76

Chief Assistant Corporation Counsel Wes Hanscom told a City Council panel that City Hall is preparing to sue ticket resellers who make a killing on the Internet but leave taxpayers in the lurch.

The crackdown can't come soon enough for Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th).

He believes that as much as $16 million in amusement taxes is slipping through the city's fingers because of growing Internet purchases.

$4.2 mil. loss on Sox postseason?

"One registered ticket broker paid $140,000 in amusement tax on White Sox postseason.

EBay, it is estimated, is 20 times the size of that broker. That's $2.8 million...

If StubHub is 10 times the size of that broker, that's $1.4 million.

One day, StubHub had 882 tickets listed for a single Bears game, with an uncollected city tax of $17,950," the alderman said.

Last fall, the Daley administration filed a lawsuit accusing more than a dozen online companies of not paying proper taxes on hotel rooms they secure at discount rates.

On Tuesday, Burke made it clear he's not prepared to wait the years it will take for the hotel and ticket-broker lawsuits to make their way through the courts.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: burke; chicago; citycouncil; cityhall; daley; daleyadministration; edwardburke; edwardmburke; g75; internet; internettaxes; online; onlineticket; onlineticketresales; rats; resales; revenooers; stubhub; tax; taxes; ticketresales
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To: ManORight
"Like you could vote the Democrats out of office in Chicago."


I know what you mean.





21 posted on 02/08/2006 9:30:22 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Tanniker Smith

"Of course, in New York, we just call this scalping."

Only within a certain distance from the stadium, I thought. (Or is NY different than everywhere else?)


22 posted on 02/08/2006 9:35:21 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: george76

One has to think about what service the city provided in order to receive the income (tax). I don't know of one, but perhaps there is one. Usually, rational people think of taxing for a service (e.g. city builds the roads and taxpayer pays for them).

Interestingly, there is a requirement in Texas that the city not be able to recover more than the cost of the service. In other words, they can't provide a dumpster on your property for $600/month, if they can only rationalize a cost to them of $100/month. That would be a new tax, which can only be voted on.


23 posted on 02/08/2006 9:43:27 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: cowtowney

But this is DUmmie land...Chicago.

They can rationalize any tax number for what the Rats think that they deserve of your money.


24 posted on 02/08/2006 9:48:34 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ManORight; george76
"We simply don't have the luxury in this economy to pass up any opportunity to collect what is due and owing to hard-pressed taxpayers," Burke said.

If these tax evaders paid their rightful share, taxes would go down for the rest of the hard-pressed taxpayers of Chicago.

25 posted on 02/08/2006 9:54:45 AM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: george76
If Illinois handles this like they handled the online purchases of tobacco they will end up sending the buyers a bill. A co-worker recived a bill from Illinois and Cook county each for $800.00 for out of state online purchases of cigeretts.

I guess anyone who purchased anything online who lives in Illinois will eventualy recieve a bill. Good buy internet commerce.
26 posted on 02/08/2006 10:52:48 AM PST by erics-chi town
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To: erics-chi town
Should be - good-bye internet commerece.
27 posted on 02/08/2006 10:54:53 AM PST by erics-chi town
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To: george76

Government -- The ultimate "protection" racket...


28 posted on 02/08/2006 10:56:45 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: george76

I don't know why, but as I clicked on the headline link, I already knew the story was going to be about Chicago.


29 posted on 02/08/2006 11:01:10 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: an amused spectator

If the Chicago City Council had allowed Walmart to spend their money on building a Walmart store inside Chicago, then Chicago would have received millions of property tax dollars and sales tax dollars per year.

Now, Chicago gets nothing.


30 posted on 02/08/2006 11:03:05 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: toddlintown

Chicago, like most Rats want all of your money.

Often, the Rats then get no money as the businesses go elsewhere.

We do have choices.


31 posted on 02/08/2006 11:05:53 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: erics-chi town

Another good reason to move.

We can leave high tax, DUmmie controlled cities, counties, and/or states.


32 posted on 02/08/2006 11:10:40 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The sad thing is my last move 10 years ago was from New York to Chicago. I'll plan my next move more carefully.


33 posted on 02/08/2006 11:18:19 AM PST by erics-chi town
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To: george76
LOL! I was trying to get you going with my first post. I've noticed that most of the media is completely credulous when "reporting" on taxation issues.

I'll bet that if Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke told little Ms. Fran Spielman that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy were getting "shafted" by the EVIL Chicago "tax evaders", she'd print it as gospel.

Of course, your points about Walmart & the city of Chicago would never see the light of day...

34 posted on 02/08/2006 11:24:37 AM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: erics-chi town
This might be helpful. Red is nice.


35 posted on 02/08/2006 11:28:45 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I wish I had come up with the idea for Ticketmaster or Tickets.com. They charge six bucks on top of the tax and shipping and handling. That's some good money if you can get it.


36 posted on 02/08/2006 11:30:50 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: an amused spectator

Good job. You got me.



How happy can the current DUmmies living in "government" housing be ?

They are in denial. Reality will arrive. The state and federal tax payers can not carry them forever.

As those who can leave, do leave...the tax base will shrink even smaller.

No hard working person would start up (or continue) a business, hire staff, take financial risks...only for the Rats to tax and harrass them further.


37 posted on 02/08/2006 11:45:35 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
No hard working person would start up (or continue) a business, hire staff, take financial risks...only for the Rats to tax and harrass them further.

I think the wise American should start heavily considering taxation in their career and living arrangements, now that there is a great amount of readily available information on the Internet.

38 posted on 02/08/2006 11:52:55 AM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: an amused spectator

First, It is not only how much money you make, it is also how much money you keep.

Second, It is more fun to live and work in a positive community where most folks are working hard and smart. When most parents and kids are giving to make a better community, good things happen.

Third, it is awful to exist near people that are gifters and takers ...all the time.


39 posted on 02/08/2006 12:12:07 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: armydoc
You aren't obligated to collect sales tax when you resell your car or any other item you own, are you?

No, but the buyer will pay a sales tax when he registers the vehicle.
40 posted on 02/08/2006 2:34:40 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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