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LIVE THREAD: SJC hearing on the NSA surveilance program - C-span 1; 9:30 am EST

Posted on 02/06/2006 6:08:53 AM PST by ken5050

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To: Peach

During Bush's inauguration, the camera panned across Graham and he had this wierd facial tick thing going on and then he started digging in his nose....lol. It was gross!!


1,281 posted on 02/06/2006 11:10:48 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Txsleuth
Look, what do you expect from a "light in the loafers" Senator?

So, prissy Graham has a torture problem? He is an ex-JAG officer, which means he is a total pussy by nature.

But, in this case, he is making good points about what Congress can and cant do about it.

The most important point made today is that "the letter of the law matters, not Congress' intent when they made the law. If they screwed up, and did not limit the President's power in their wording, that is their problem.

1,282 posted on 02/06/2006 11:11:43 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: penelopesire

I guess Schumer has his talking points and he's not going to let Gonzales interrupt him with an answer!


1,283 posted on 02/06/2006 11:11:51 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Mo1

He just dropped a name of a Justice Official who disagreed with some aspects of the program...

Gonzales says he disagreed with other issues....


1,284 posted on 02/06/2006 11:11:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: StarFan

Gonzales: There hasn't been any serious disagreement about the program. There have been disagreements about other matters regarding operations which I can't get into.

Schumer: There was dissent within the admin.

Gonzales: To my knowledge, none of the reservations dealt with the program that we're talking about today. They dealt with operational...

Schumer: The head of the office of legal counsel expressed reservation about the program.

Gonzales: Let me say that differing views that have been the subject of these stories did not deal with the program that I'm here testifying to here today.


1,285 posted on 02/06/2006 11:11:59 AM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: Howlin

AND his scoring Brownie points with Schumer because of it...

you know, President Bush have felt VERY strongly that he is on VERY solid ground where his subject is concerned.

Leave it to the darn RINOS to muck it up...but, I don't understand why Brownback is with them.


1,286 posted on 02/06/2006 11:12:01 AM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Graham is setting up a great argument here for our side. He is establishing the fact that Congress has a remedy at their disposal, if they don't like the NSA program.

Unfortunately he undermined that by suggesting that the President is unrestrained in interpreting the law as he wishes...completely ignoring the fact that the President has been briefing Congress.

1,287 posted on 02/06/2006 11:12:06 AM PST by Dolphy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He's quoting Newsweek!


1,288 posted on 02/06/2006 11:12:47 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Peach

Schumer: Newsweek reported that some Justice Dept. lawyesr were so upset that they hired private lawyers.

Gonzales: I don't know if that's true.


1,289 posted on 02/06/2006 11:13:00 AM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: Peach
Schumer: There was dissent within the admin.

They seem to think ANY questioning by officials is dissent.

1,290 posted on 02/06/2006 11:13:27 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Howlin
They ALWAYS find those guys who don't get their way to come on TV and carp, don't they?

Schumer is rattling off the list of names from this Newsweek article.

Specter has no problem calling Comey and Goldsmith before the Committee. They'll get their 15 minutes.

1,291 posted on 02/06/2006 11:13:39 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Howlin

So that was Schumers research arm.....OK?!!!


1,292 posted on 02/06/2006 11:13:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Howlin

If Newsweek printed it it must be true............


1,293 posted on 02/06/2006 11:13:55 AM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Peach

Schumer: Attorney client privileges...it's up to the Chair who he wants to call as a witness.


1,294 posted on 02/06/2006 11:13:59 AM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: Dolphy

Exactly.

Graham is wrong.


1,295 posted on 02/06/2006 11:14:07 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Dolphy
He is right.

The law says "any and all actions". The president does not have to be an expert on the law to understand "any and all actions". It just points out that Congress is made up of stooges, who wrote the expansive law, because they were afraid to look like wimps in the face of 9-11.
1,296 posted on 02/06/2006 11:14:11 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Now Schumer's quoting Newsweek FGS!
And that is one ugly tie he has on.


1,297 posted on 02/06/2006 11:14:15 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Howlin

Geesh, Comey...the man who brought us Fitzgerald.


1,298 posted on 02/06/2006 11:14:44 AM PST by Dolphy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sounds like Schumer is using his ten minutes to try to force Spectre to drag in the "Dem" witnesses.


1,299 posted on 02/06/2006 11:14:51 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Peach

Schumer: Newsweek reported that some Justice Dept. lawyesr were so upset that they hired private lawyers."


I guess that is how Schumer is briefed on current events. He probably has his copy of Newsweek on the floor next to his toilet in his Senate office bathroom.


1,300 posted on 02/06/2006 11:15:09 AM PST by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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