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Danger Zone - (Haleigh Poutre)
National Review ^ | February 01, 2006 | Wesley J, Smith

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida

In the court (and courts) of life and death, a little 11-year-old Massachusetts girl named Haleigh Poutre could be the next Terri Schiavo. For those who have not heard the tragic story, Haleigh was beaten nearly to death last September, allegedly by her adoptive mother and stepfather. The beating left her unconscious and barely clinging to life.

Within a week or so of the beating, her doctors had written her off. They apparently told Haleigh's court-appointed guardian, Harry Spence, that she was "virtually brain dead." Even though he had never visited her, Spence quickly went to court seeking permission to remove her respirator and feeding tube. The court agreed, a decision affirmed recently by the supreme court of Massachusetts.

And so, no doubt with the best of intentions, a little girl who had already suffered so much was stripped by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts of even the chance to fight to stay alive. If she didn't stop breathing when the respirator was removed, which doctors expected, she would slowly dehydrate to death.

Close Call

Then came the unexpected:

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: childabuse; dehydratnfla; dontfeedtrolls; euthanasia; flstarvestate; gallagher4guv; haileypoutre; haleighpoutre; justicevseuthanasia; massachusetts; starvnfla; stopflmurders; tedstith; terridailies; terridailiesfeb; terrischiavo; terrischindler; wesleyjsmith
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To: 8mmMauser
and how she resisted and fought back, surviving thirteen days without a drop, not even the tiniest drop of water.

Sorry 8mm, water wasn't safe for her to drink. It would of hurt her. That is what I've been told.

921 posted on 02/14/2006 4:11:38 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Ohioan from Florida
"Every time I see videos of Terri, I marvel at the stupidity of some who continue to say that she was brain dead."

Like Hildy?

922 posted on 02/14/2006 4:14:49 PM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: bjs1779

OK, I accept that, you're right. Somebody may have slipped her bad water and made her sick.

That is also why they had a couple of armed guards at her door, to protect her from anyone who ran the gauntlet of armed guards outside and survived the shooting, to rush in with bad tasting water.


923 posted on 02/14/2006 4:20:04 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Sun

Well said.... and very sad.


924 posted on 02/14/2006 4:21:29 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: 8mmMauser
OK, I accept that, you're right. Somebody may have slipped her bad water and made her sick.

Not exactly. Even good water MAY of made her sick. That is what I've been told. Aspiration MIGHT make someone dead. The autopsy proved it you know...

925 posted on 02/14/2006 4:31:10 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

How could she have asphixiated? She wasn't allowed ANY liquids, not even a drop.


926 posted on 02/14/2006 4:37:29 PM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: jackibutterfly
How could she have asphixiated? She wasn't allowed ANY liquids, not even a drop.

Not asphyxiated. It is called aspirated pneumonia. That is something the other side relies on to justify straving her to death.

927 posted on 02/14/2006 4:41:28 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: jackibutterfly
I'm sorry, but I just don't see the same thing in the videos that you obviously do. I also keep remembering that the rest of the four hours of video provide the context that showed even more clearly that there was no cognition there.

Thanks for your comments.
928 posted on 02/14/2006 4:58:57 PM PST by quentin
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To: quentin
I also keep remembering that the rest of the four hours of video provide the context that showed even more clearly that there was no cognition there.

Where did you see the other four hours that clearly showed no cognition? They were never made public.

929 posted on 02/14/2006 5:02:50 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: quentin

Quentin - you can't see her reacting to her father??? She's laughing cuz she REMEMBERS!!!! You can't see that? Look at it again. It's pretty obvioius how alert she is. And then to kill someone like that???


930 posted on 02/14/2006 5:10:53 PM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: bjs1779
Why do let people control you now? I am confused on that. Why don't you just stop eating and drinking. It is a beautiful thing you know, after all, Felos told you so.


I have my reasons, which are not appropriate for discussion here. What I am confused on is the hostility dripping from your posts to me. I am not here to criticize anyone's beliefs or to try to change anyone's mind to agree with my beliefs. If I have given any impression otherwise, I beg your pardon. I have tried to choose my words carefully so as not to give offense, yet still to open a discussion with you all.

If I have mistaken the purpose of this thread, and if you would prefer to post only to each other and those of like mind, please let me know, and I will trouble you no longer.
931 posted on 02/14/2006 5:10:57 PM PST by quentin
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To: quentin
"I also keep remembering that the rest of the four hours of video provide the context that showed even more clearly that there was no cognition there."

And, so what if she wasn't "cognitive" for 4 hours. Does that give anyone the right to kill her??? When you're asleep, you're not cognitive at that particular time. Is that the time when you should be killed?

932 posted on 02/14/2006 5:13:32 PM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: 8mmMauser; All

8mm, I would like to discuss further with you, if you and the others decide my presence here is acceptable to you. However, I must leave for tonight, and will only be able to continue in the morning. (I take some heavy-duty medications, and once they kick in--which they will soon do--I am pretty much out of it.) I hope you all have a good night.


933 posted on 02/14/2006 5:15:49 PM PST by quentin
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To: jackibutterfly
Unfortunately, I have to leave now. I am waiting anxiously for anyone else to view the video. I've posted this same video approx. 8 times over the last several months, and NO ONE has ever responded besides Hildy and Quentin, who just cannot "see" that this girl was ALIVE! PLEASE, someone else respond - I'd sure appreciate it. I'll pick up this thread again when I get home. Thanks.

And Quentin, people (like me) on the Freeper threads do react in disbelief, or argue or vent, or even agree with you; that doesn't mean you should run away. That's what this thread is for - to COMMUNICATE. K? Heck, I keep trying to get these Freeper compatriots of mine to just view the video. Commenting on it would be nice, too. : - )

934 posted on 02/14/2006 5:19:54 PM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: quentin
I have my reasons, which are not appropriate for discussion here. What I am confused on is the hostility dripping from your posts to me.

Sounds like you like to avoid the truth, if possible. Where is the other 4 hours of Video that you remember so well.

935 posted on 02/14/2006 5:25:29 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

From the autopsy summary...

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/06/15/Tampabay/Autopsy_report_synops.shtml
Could Mrs. Schiavo eat by mouth?

No: Mrs. Schiavo would not have been able to consume sustenance safely and/or in sufficient quantity by mouth. In fact, the records and findings are such that oral feedings in quantities sufficient to sustain life would have certainly resulted in aspiration. Thus, Mrs. Schiavo was dependent on nutrition and hydration via her feeding tube.


936 posted on 02/14/2006 5:41:29 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
In fact, the records and findings are such that oral feedings in quantities sufficient to sustain life would have certainly resulted in aspiration

Thank you for your report. I would hate to think what would of happened to Terri if we didn't know that. I agree with you, don't give her a chance to prove you wrong...

937 posted on 02/14/2006 5:51:40 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: jackibutterfly
>> I am waiting anxiously for anyone else to view the video

I just did. I've seen it before. Her dad isn't going to win any awards for stand-up comedy, but Terri laughed anyway, in her fashion.

Reminds me of that video of Doc "Humane Death" Cranford (his own term) examining her and vigorously complimenting her for passing a test. Afterward he wrote up a report saying, in effect, she was a vegetable and couldn't possibly do what he had just witnessed and complimented her for doing.

There is no understanding death doctors. For them, it's "kill 'em all."

938 posted on 02/14/2006 6:23:12 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: T'wit
Reminds me of that video of Doc "Humane Death" Cranford (his own term) examining her and vigorously complimenting her for passing a test.

He had the nerve to tell the Shindlers how well she had done also after those tests. The Shindlers couldn't believe it when he took the stand in court.

939 posted on 02/14/2006 6:30:06 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: All

PAC will support lawmakers who SUPPORTED Terri Schiavo:

http://www.nys-right-to-life.org/news/02132006/political_action_committee_will_.htm


940 posted on 02/14/2006 6:33:24 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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