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Danger Zone - (Haleigh Poutre)
National Review ^ | February 01, 2006 | Wesley J, Smith

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida

In the court (and courts) of life and death, a little 11-year-old Massachusetts girl named Haleigh Poutre could be the next Terri Schiavo. For those who have not heard the tragic story, Haleigh was beaten nearly to death last September, allegedly by her adoptive mother and stepfather. The beating left her unconscious and barely clinging to life.

Within a week or so of the beating, her doctors had written her off. They apparently told Haleigh's court-appointed guardian, Harry Spence, that she was "virtually brain dead." Even though he had never visited her, Spence quickly went to court seeking permission to remove her respirator and feeding tube. The court agreed, a decision affirmed recently by the supreme court of Massachusetts.

And so, no doubt with the best of intentions, a little girl who had already suffered so much was stripped by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts of even the chance to fight to stay alive. If she didn't stop breathing when the respirator was removed, which doctors expected, she would slowly dehydrate to death.

Close Call

Then came the unexpected:

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: childabuse; dehydratnfla; dontfeedtrolls; euthanasia; flstarvestate; gallagher4guv; haileypoutre; haleighpoutre; justicevseuthanasia; massachusetts; starvnfla; stopflmurders; tedstith; terridailies; terridailiesfeb; terrischiavo; terrischindler; wesleyjsmith
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To: T'wit
Thanks T'wit. From my experience, the disabled seem to enjoy life more than us normal people. They know it's precious.
861 posted on 02/13/2006 6:20:27 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: All; 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida

After Death Do We Part

By Pete Vere, JCL

--snip--

Like my colleague Dr. Ed Peters, I wonder about the validity of Michael and Jody’s marriage. Canon 1090 §1 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law is clear: “One who, with a view to entering marriage with a particular person, has killed that person’s spouse, or his or her own spouse, invalidly attempts this marriage.”


snippet from: http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=1&art_id=31747

This article is definitely worth reading.


862 posted on 02/13/2006 6:27:56 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; TheSarce; BykrBayb; T'wit; Lesforlife; Halls; Ohioan from Florida; ...
Michael Schiavo, Judge George Greer, and Ronald "Dr. Death" Cranford are scheduled to speak at the University of Pennsylvania on April 30 at a bioethicist seminar entitled, "The Legacy of the Terri Schiavo Case: Why is it so hard to die in America?"

Sunday, 30 April 2006
3:00pm – 3:15pm
Welcome / Introductions
Personal Experiences with Death and Dying
Lead Speaker: Michael Schiavo

Monday, 1 May 2006
8:45am – 10:15am
Who Should Decide: Surrogates / Families?
Lead Speaker: Jay Wolfson, Dr.P.H., J.D.
10:30am – 12:00pm

Who Should Decide: Courts / Legislators?
Lead Speaker: Circuit Judge George W. Greer

Lunch with Talk: The Role of the Media
Speaker: Robert Bazell, Chief Science and Health
Correspondent, NBC News

Lead Speaker: Ron Cranford, M.D.

Closing Remarks: Arthur L. Caplan, Ph.D

Bioethics at Penn

863 posted on 02/13/2006 6:30:20 PM PST by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary

Oh Lordy..."Why Is It So Hard To Die In America"? Ask everyone on the evening news body count, morons.

Hey look, they're serving lunch! I hope they get stuck with Ensure....(tastes horrible)


864 posted on 02/13/2006 6:36:45 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: amdgmary

Quite a cast of characters participating! I thought for a minute that Jim Jones would be there passing out refreshments, too.


865 posted on 02/13/2006 6:37:43 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
"I thought for a minute that Jim Jones would be there passing out refreshments, too."

Ha ha haaaa...Jim Jones will be there in spirit.

866 posted on 02/13/2006 6:42:05 PM PST by amdgmary
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To: bjs1779
Yes, in my experience too, the disabled do enjoy life more. God knows, they work for it. By the rules of life, that effort should reward them with an extra zest for being alive.

It has also been my experience that people with retardation (from whatever cause) have been some of the sweetest, gentlest, most serene people I've ever known.

867 posted on 02/13/2006 6:52:28 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: amdgmary

Can you imagine what the Shindlers must feel when these ghouls get together to celebrate their daughter death? Lord.


868 posted on 02/13/2006 6:54:48 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: T'wit
It has also been my experience that people with retardation (from whatever cause) have been some of the sweetest, gentlest, most serene people I've ever known.

I 2nd that T'wit. It often makes me think who is really retarded.

869 posted on 02/13/2006 6:57:39 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: amdgmary

Where's Dick Cheney when you need him?


870 posted on 02/13/2006 7:18:30 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: amdgmary
>> Why is it so hard to die in America?

You go first, bioethicist hypocrites.

871 posted on 02/13/2006 7:34:00 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: amdgmary

What a surprise! I can only shake my head at this news.


872 posted on 02/13/2006 9:41:49 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: bjs1779
>> I think he already did.

He has made an assertion. I don't think it rises to the level of an argument in the absence of any supporting evidence. If he wishes to present sourced commentary and quotations from those he affects to speak for, I'll listen.

I'd like to know more about such minds. Suicidal tendencies are not normal, even among the hard cases. They are not noble either. We honor the enduring courage of those who bear their own burdens or who patiently care for a loved one. We do not honor quitters.

873 posted on 02/14/2006 4:00:06 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: bjs1779
>> I thought for a minute that Jim Jones would be there passing out refreshments, too.

It occurs to me that Jim Jones was better than these people. Jones was as sick as a human can get but he was still man enough to drink his own grape Kool-Aid. The ghouls at the Pennsylvania seminar haven't got his guts. They are interested only in beating up on women and the aged and disabled folks who can't fight back. They are bullies, and like all bullies, cowards.

I'll bet they have a session devoted to plundering the late loved one's estate.

874 posted on 02/14/2006 4:23:23 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: T'wit; quentin
A couple of points,

First on suicide and disabled: I was astounded at the number of disabled who came to Pinellas Park to defend Terri. They reflected a substantial percentage of all the protesters, represented most all the faiths I can think of, and even some who were atheist or agnostic. Early into the vigil, one could visit at 11:00pm on a rainy night and see almost nobody, except bold courageous souls in wheelchairs! Early morning, late at night, all the time, the disabled were there, sometimes suffering greatly for the effort, but hiding it, and staying brave. Some were horribly disabled, one came from Texas, carried on a stretcher. No talks of suicide or despair, just the resolve to defend Terri and her "right to live" (not die).

What a humbling sight it is to witness such courage from those we might expect to wallow in well deserved pity.

Second, the SP Times was ubiquitous. At least one of their reporters was nice, but we never saw much good in print, only the negatives. St. Pete Times has a building right in the middle of scientologyland, a stone's throw away from the emporor's chamber of Judge Greed. I came to see the St. Pete Times as an equation:

New York Times is to liberals as St. Pete Times is to.......?

8mm

875 posted on 02/14/2006 5:10:08 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb

"The Saint Petersburg Times"

Anyone know if The Saint Pete newspaper is owned by the New York Times?


876 posted on 02/14/2006 5:40:10 AM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: 8mmMauser
>> New York Times is to liberals as St. Pete Times is to.......?

Mosquitoes? Rats? Leeches? Street drunks? Kudzu? Black Plague germs? The Progressive Labor Party? Boy, this is a stumper. :-) :-)

877 posted on 02/14/2006 5:47:32 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
On this Valentine Day, I hoped to refer to a touching story from TheSpottedOwl, but due to technicalities, that thread was pulled. Maybe it will be reposted.

Meanwhile, some updates vis a vis Haleigh Poutre:

At this stage of her troubled life, Haleigh needs an advocate who can love her like no other. Her biological mother should have a voice in her future.

OUR VIEW: Mother and child

Bureaucrats, gotta love 'em......or not!

Turns out DSS screens award recipients as well as they screen some foster parents.

Chris Duhart, 43, was arrested on Jan. 27 and charged with statutory rape. Details are sketchy, but according to police reports, Duhart told police he had sexual contact with the foster child. He has pleaded innocent.

DSS strikes once again

8mm


878 posted on 02/14/2006 5:53:24 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> First on suicide and disabled.....

What an inspiring story this is! -- especially to those of us who could not be there and see it and be part of it. Thank you for your first-hand report -- and for being there.

879 posted on 02/14/2006 5:55:21 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> New York Times is to liberals as St. Pete Times is to.......?

I've had only one strong encounter with scientology, in the persons of two young friends, both young women. They gave me guided tours of the local "church" and more secret facilities. (I found it ridiculous :-) ). This was thirty years ago.

One of the young women eventually escaped. The one who did not was surnamed Cranford. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

880 posted on 02/14/2006 6:00:45 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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