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Danger Zone - (Haleigh Poutre)
National Review ^ | February 01, 2006 | Wesley J, Smith

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida

In the court (and courts) of life and death, a little 11-year-old Massachusetts girl named Haleigh Poutre could be the next Terri Schiavo. For those who have not heard the tragic story, Haleigh was beaten nearly to death last September, allegedly by her adoptive mother and stepfather. The beating left her unconscious and barely clinging to life.

Within a week or so of the beating, her doctors had written her off. They apparently told Haleigh's court-appointed guardian, Harry Spence, that she was "virtually brain dead." Even though he had never visited her, Spence quickly went to court seeking permission to remove her respirator and feeding tube. The court agreed, a decision affirmed recently by the supreme court of Massachusetts.

And so, no doubt with the best of intentions, a little girl who had already suffered so much was stripped by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts of even the chance to fight to stay alive. If she didn't stop breathing when the respirator was removed, which doctors expected, she would slowly dehydrate to death.

Close Call

Then came the unexpected:

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: childabuse; dehydratnfla; dontfeedtrolls; euthanasia; flstarvestate; gallagher4guv; haileypoutre; haleighpoutre; justicevseuthanasia; massachusetts; starvnfla; stopflmurders; tedstith; terridailies; terridailiesfeb; terrischiavo; terrischindler; wesleyjsmith
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thanks. :-)


21 posted on 02/01/2006 8:07:12 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
A ping for Haleigh!!!

God bless this little kid!

8mm


22 posted on 02/01/2006 8:07:47 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu, ufam Tobie!..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Halls
This is such a sad story and so many people so quick to pull the plug and let her starve to death. A little girl who has already gone through so much.

Never had anyone to love her, cherish her, etc....just people who want to pull the plug as fast as possible. God help us all.

23 posted on 02/01/2006 8:16:46 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats...by Thomas Sowell)
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To: 8mmMauser
The PVS diagnosis was created for one reason and to serve only one purpose – to kill those that are the weakest and most vulnerable among us.
Exactly!
State sanctioned - and encouraged murder.

But then we have been murdering the inconvient among us since 1973.

May God have mercy on our nation.

GE
24 posted on 02/01/2006 8:16:59 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

PVS is a shamefully hopeless diagnosis. It is one where the doctor decides there is nothing he can do, and so gives himself permission to give up trying.

I am more encouraged by the doctors who understand that there are stages of consciousness, and that we can be unconscious for a while, then emerge from it, and sometimes retreat back into it, only to (oftentimes) re-emerge.

I detest when they refer to PVS as a permanent condition. Only death is permanent.


25 posted on 02/01/2006 8:24:24 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
...Lest anyone think that Haleigh's apparent consciousness protects her from suffering the fate of Terri Schiavo, who was ordered dehydrated by a Florida court based, in part, on a finding that she was unconscious, think again. In most states, exhibiting consciousness is not a defense against dehydration for profoundly impaired patients. Indeed, cognitively disabled people who are conscious are commonly dehydrated throughout the country. So long as no family member objects, the practice is deemed medically routine...
In today's 'compassionate' world, the standard society uses decide whether another lives or dies is if we would 'want to live like that.' In reality of course, the standard is whether a given individual is to be considered a burden upon society or a potential contributor to the collective.

If this little girl had only murdered someone before becoming disabled, the Left would now be rising up in her defense. It is her innocence that condemns her.

These are examples of decadence and cold indifference to life that our Jihadist enemies can point to as proof that our culture is toxic and as such should be forcibly replaced with theirs for the ultimate good of all.
26 posted on 02/01/2006 8:29:37 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: mnehrling

Sure, you're added to the Pro-Life ping list.


27 posted on 02/01/2006 8:32:45 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

But those with an agenda are never interested in facts.


28 posted on 02/01/2006 8:35:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Low-swooping Hawk)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Only death is permanent.
I would only add that only death is known to be permanent by us. Since we, as humans, do not grant life we consequently have no authority to extinguish it except for cases specifically authorized by the granter of life.
In this nation we have removed the authority of Gods word from our public conciseness for long enough now that society no longer knows why it is wrong to kill. It is wrong because GOD said it is. Without that anchor, every moral decision is just opinion - and one opinion is just as valid as another. -- IMHO

Cordially,
GE
29 posted on 02/01/2006 8:39:11 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

Thoughtful addition! :-)


30 posted on 02/01/2006 8:54:46 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: MarMema

I know you're a fan of Smith's, so I thought I should ping you to this thread. Hope you're doing well.


31 posted on 02/01/2006 8:56:04 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: walford

The futile care system is alive and well in our country as it stands today.

The Jihadists can find proof anywhere they want to look. Too bad they don't see their own faults and shortcomings, and are willing to kill others because of their blindness. I guess the same could be said of the euthanasiasts.


32 posted on 02/01/2006 9:03:24 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: walford
You bring up a good point of irony and stark contrast. Picture if we were to sentence our serial murderers to death by dehydration. Liberals decry the cruel and inhuman punishment of the pain of a needle in a lethal injection. Yet, we sentence the innocent to up to thirteen days of horrible and painful death.

Imagine if we sentenced Scott Peterson to such a treatment.

The article in this thread describes the punishment of dehydration.

Defining dehydratable people.

It wasn't always so. It used to be thought of as unthinkable to remove a feeding tube. Then, as bioethicists and others among the medical intelligentsia began to worry about the cost of caring for dependent people and the growing number of our elderly — and as personal autonomy increasingly became a driving force in medical ethics — some looked for a way to shorten the lives of the most marginal people without violating the law or radically distorting traditional medical values. Removing tubes providing food and fluids was seen as the answer. After all, it was argued, use of a feeding tube requires a relatively minor medical procedure. Moreover, the nutrition provided the patient is not steak and potatoes, but a liquid formula prepared under medical auspices so as to ease digestion. There can also be complications such as diarrhea and infection.

Having reached consensus on the matter, the bioethics movement mounted a deliberate and energetic campaign during the 1980s to change the classification of ANH from humane care, which can't be withdrawn, to medical treatment, which can. The first people targeted for potential dehydration were the persistently unconscious or elderly with pronounced morbidity. Thus, bioethics pioneer Daniel Callahan wrote in the October 1983. Hastings Center Report, "Given the increasingly large pool of superannuated, chronically ill, physically marginalized elderly it [a denial of ANH] could well become the non treatment of choice."

And here is just one description of the effects of dehydration:

Saliva becomes thick and foul-tasting; the tongue clings irritatingly to the teeth and the roof of the mouth .... A lump seems to form in the throat ... severe pain is felt in the head and neck. The face feels full due to the shrinking of the skin. Hearing is affected, and many people begin to hallucinate... [then come] the agonies of a mouth that has ceased to generate saliva. The tongue hardens into what McGee describes as "a senseless weight, swinging on the still-soft root and striking foreignly against the teeth." Speech becomes impossible, although sufferers have been known to moan and bellow.

Next is the "blood sweats" phase, involving "a progressive mummification of the initially living body." The tongue swells to such proportions that it squeezes past the jaws. The eyelids crack and the eyeballs begin to weep tears of blood. The throat is so swollen that breathing becomes difficult, creating an incongruous yet terrifying
sense of drowning.

Finally ... there is living death, the state into which Pablo Valencia had entered when McGee discovered him on a desert trail, crawling on his hands and knees: "His lips had disappeared as if amputated, leaving low edges of blackened tissue; his teeth and gums projected like those of a skinned animal, but the flesh was black and dry as a hank of jerky; his nose was withered and shrunken to half its length, and the nostril-lining showing black; his eyes were set in a winkless stare, with surrounding skin so contracted as to expose the conjunctiva, itself as black as the gums...; his skin [had] generally turned a ghastly purplish yet ashen gray, with great livid blotches and streaks; his lower legs and feet ... were torn and scratched by contact with thorns and sharp rocks, yet even the freshest cuts were so many scratches in dry leather, without trace of blood" (Philbrick, 126-128).

Source

33 posted on 02/01/2006 9:17:41 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu, ufam Tobie!..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Haleigh Poutre information

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

34 posted on 02/01/2006 9:18:41 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
I don't think there is a Haleigh Poutre ping list (yet); I've been pinging her story to my Pro-Life/Pro-Baby list. :)


35 posted on 02/01/2006 9:19:46 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Hildy

Of course there's a huge difference, but that doesn't matter to the willfully ignorant or the kookily obsessed.


36 posted on 02/01/2006 9:22:39 AM PST by Constitution Day (Anger is an energy)
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To: 8mmMauser; amdgmary; cyn; tutstar; Lesforlife; Ohioan from Florida; Dante3; T'wit
Ted Stith has died. I was able to get confirmation. He died of dehydration at a hospice.

Ted wanted water. He wanted to live.

Parents should not vacation in Florida with their adult children unless they trust them.

seriously. the medical providers are not healing, they are trafficking human beings straight to hospice.

Amerika, wake up. Ted was only 73 and people recover from strokes every single day!

37 posted on 02/01/2006 9:23:43 AM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Please put me on your ping list? Thanks.


38 posted on 02/01/2006 9:25:37 AM PST by Lovergirl (Yes! It's true. I am a SnowFlake.)
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To: cgk

Thanks for doing that. :-)


39 posted on 02/01/2006 9:27:18 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: 8mmMauser
Ted went from a hospital to a hospice. What happened to rehabbing stroke patients? Did you see above my post wherein the hospice employee said Ted would have to speak to impress him. They threw his best friend off of the visitor's list in case she was sneak feeding him. After his best friend was kicked off the list, God only knows what they did to Ted.

I'm calling Doctor Congressman Dave Weldon, Fl (federal or state investigation would be appropriate. Ted was from out of state but was murdered in Florida by Florida's DEATH CARE SYSTEM for the son.

40 posted on 02/01/2006 9:32:21 AM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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