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Wife Just Returned from Seeing End of the Spear (Vanity)
Vanity | Timmy

Posted on 01/20/2006 8:01:00 PM PST by Timmy

My wife just returned from seeing End of the Spear (opening night) with other ladies. She said it was amazingly powerful, and a must-see for all believers. For those who are not familiar with this movie, it is the followup to Gates of Spendor, about the five young missionaries martyed in Ecuador in the 1950's. After they are killed trying to reach this primitive and dangerous tribe, their wives approach the tribe and actually live with them for an extended time, bringing the Good News to them. They are now a Christian people, saved because of the incredible courage of these faithful people.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: christianity; d; elliot; endofthespear; gatesofsplendor; moviereview; movies; religion
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To: Esther Ruth
How is watching a film or play that has a actor who happens to be {and you can't tell it from the script} homosexual - considered "playing with fire"?
21 posted on 01/20/2006 8:43:08 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his belated Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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To: Timmy
Thank you for this post.....I have decided not to go to any movies any more with exceptions and I think this may be the exception....

For any other FReepers there is good info on Plugged In Movies http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0002501.cfm
22 posted on 01/20/2006 8:47:02 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: Timmy

If by the standards I've read by some of the posters, the Passion of the Christ would've been played by ....I guess Christ would not have been played by anyone.

This is a great movie and a must see for all, even non-believers.


23 posted on 01/20/2006 8:47:12 PM PST by Bushman2 (Christ came to save sinners, the righteous don't need saving....according to them)
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To: Timmy

If the political views of performers were well-publicized, or their personal lives were well-known, it might discourage many of us from going to see their films. That's why I'd rather not know their politics, backgrounds and philosophies.


24 posted on 01/20/2006 8:51:56 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Controversy ping.


25 posted on 01/20/2006 8:52:39 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Bushman2
Speaking of The Passion - it too received a sub-par review from reviewers who do not truly understand Christianity.

I Have to see this film.

26 posted on 01/20/2006 8:53:09 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his belated Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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To: Esther Ruth
I don't let my kids play with fire...or get anywhere near it.

Camping trips must be pretty boring for your children.

27 posted on 01/20/2006 8:54:44 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Ciexyz

How does Laura Ingraham put it?... "Shut Up and Sing"


28 posted on 01/20/2006 8:55:06 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his belated Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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To: Timmy

After reading about this film for a couple of weeks, I just realized I went to Wheaton College with Nate Saint. And the name Jim Elliot seems familiar too. Have to find my yearbook.


29 posted on 01/20/2006 8:58:38 PM PST by MondoQueen (MondoQueen)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

Two major performers in "Narnia" are vocal lefties, anti-Bush and anti-Iraq war: Liam Neeson (voice of Aslan) and Tilda Swinton (White Witch). Haven't heard a peep from them lately, however. Maybe the producers told them to STFU. which is fine by me, I'd rather not know their politics and opinions.


30 posted on 01/20/2006 8:59:41 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Ciexyz

As is the Christian community here. In fact one of them knows the Saint family, lived down there shortly ofter all this happened. It is their contention, if the Lord can work this kind of miracle in the heart of the tribesman, surely he can work a miracle in the heart of this actor. Which is why when they found out they looked into their hearts, and felt perhaps it was in the plan for him to be exposed to Gods love.


31 posted on 01/20/2006 9:17:23 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: MondoQueen

Sounds right, I believe I was told that Wheaton was where they went.


32 posted on 01/20/2006 9:19:22 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Kimmers

IMO, this movie is definitely worth you making an exception to your rule. I went to an afternoon showing and fought tears from the opening credits on, because I knew the story and what was coming. Very well-done, both the missionaries and the tribal people came off as 'real', and not the typical Hollyweird stereotype. I just finished watching the documentary done by the same director, 'Beyond the Gates of Splendor'. Excellent, and gripping -- full of interview with the widows, children and friends of the martyrs and the Wadoni (Auca).


33 posted on 01/20/2006 9:23:27 PM PST by DesertDreamer ("I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Timmy

1. The facts about Every Tribe Entertainment’s choice of Chad Allen

Every Tribe Entertainment chose a gay actor to play Nate Saint in the movie.
In an interview, he was asked if he had ever been in love. He said, “Yes, absolutely. I’ve loved deeply, in the romantic sense. I’m very proud of that.” The interviewer asked, “Not so long ago you had a big reputation around drugs and parties. Were you a circuit boy?” Allen responded, “No, I was a guy who loved to push everything to its limits. That included the use of drugs and alcohol to expand and heighten every emotion to its absolute extreme. I’ve experienced the rave scene, the underground New York and L.A. scenes, the circuit party scene among gay men—all of it. It’s a nice little label to give somebody, but what does it really tell you about them? Nothing. I’ve had beautiful, intense romantic relationships with women in my life. And in this period in my life I have beautiful, intense romantic relationships with men.” 1

I’ve been around evangelicalism enough to know that many will not be a bit concerned about this. After all, is homosexuality the worst sin in the world? Chad is not only gay, he flaunts his sexuality on the big screen. In an interview with InLA Magazine, he was asked about his first gay love scene in a movie. He responded, “I want beautiful, positive representations of gay male sexuality out there. So it was very important to the director, Ron Oliver, and me to make a really good sex scene that wasn't gratuitous or gross but was healthy, sexy, and beautiful.” 2

Every Tribe Entertainment chose a producer of gay films.
Chad Allen is co-producing a film called The Way Out, starring David Duchovny, about two old men who fall in love in an old folk’s home.3 He also started a company called Mythgarden. In August of 2005, he gave an interview to Scene magazine in which he expanded on Mythgarden’s plans. He said, “For television, we have a biography series of gay and lesbian heroes throughout history. We also have a wonderful series that takes classic fairy tales both familiar and lesser known and makes them gay. There's a fantastic book we optioned called Fairy Tales for Gay Men.”4

He further elaborated on his goals when he said, "There are so many good stories that want to be told, and we just want to make good movies with and for gay people," says Allen, who is going back into production with a new Donald Strachey mystery for Here TV in which he plays a gay detective. "We want to tell stories that highlight historical events and also illustrate what it really means to be gay." His agenda comes across pretty clear when he states in an interview with Out magazine that he hopes to use Mythgarden to show gay, lesbian, bisexual, and trans-gendered people in a positive light.5

Every Tribe Entertainment chose a gay activist.
Not only is Allen a gay movie actor who also produces gay films, he is an activist for gay causes. According to Out magazine’s January 2006 article, Chad tours the country with gay outreach programs.6 In an April 23 interview, he was asked if he had been to many gay pride celebrations around the country. He replied, “I love it. Everyone gets so uptight about people marching down the street…I mean who cares, these people have been doing this before we could even talk about being openly gay and stuff. These people have pushed the community so (expletive) far forward, excuse my language that who cares about the shock.” 7

According to Advocate magazine in November of 2003, “He began pouring his energy and time into myriad causes, including the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, which helps elect openly gay candidates nationwide, and the Trevor Project, which sponsors a toll-free, round-the-clock suicide hotline for GLBT teens.” 8

Every Tribe Entertainment chose a star who has appeared in plays that have degraded Christ and Christianity.
In 2001, Allen starred in a play, set in 1950’s Corpus Christi, Texas. The play is said to parallel the New Testament story of Jesus. The play features a hard-drinking gay man gay named Joshua. Joshua is the Christ-figure who is different because he is gay. He grows up in isolation and becomes an object of ridicule. He runs from the environment of the city and while traveling gathers about him a group of twelve disciples who cling to him because of his message of love and tolerance. Most of the twelve disciples bear the names of Christ's apostles.

According to a Gay Wired article in 2001, when asked how he became involved in the play, Allen said, “I had heard of the show and knew of its reputation before I read it. So I took it home and read it and when I read it, I found it to be an incredible play. It single-handedly seemed to give me back a concept of Christ and a concept of human divinity that I had long since lost.” 9

Here are excerpts from another interview:
DW: Corpus Christi is not a play without its share of detractors. What do you say to those who claim that the play is an attack on Christianity?
CA: “I view [Corpus Christi] as a deeply Christian play. I constantly find myself reminding people that Jesus Christ is not a character in this play. This is not written as a historical account or meant to be a historical account of Jesus Christ. What it does is it asks us all, ‘Can we see ourselves as Christ? Are we all capable of that same kind of relationship with God?'”

DW: What do you think is the single most important message of the play?
CA: “It’s one line in the play. It’s early on when God is talking to his son before Joshua comes to realize himself as the son of God and [God] whispers to him, ‘All men are divine.’ And he [Joshua] says, ‘What? I can’t hear you?’ And he [God] says, ‘All men are divine. That is the secret that you will teach them.’ [Then] Joshua says, ‘What if I don’t want to teach them?’ and God says, ‘You won’t be able to keep the secret.’ That’s the message of the piece as I see it. That we are all capable of the same kind of divine relationship with God that Joshua comes to find.” 10

However, Corpus Christi is not the only anti-Christian production that Allen has been involved in. He starred in a production entitled “Save Me” which is about a young man who goes to an organization designed to help gays come out of the gay lifestyle. While at the treatment center, he falls in love with a male reporter. In explaining the production to The Advocate magazine on November 25, 2003, Chad said, “[It's] about the "ex-gay" movement. I read the script and at the end I was crying, because I thought it was the best love story between two guys that I'd ever read. Simultaneously, it explores this ex-gay movement from a place where it doesn't need to make the Christian right out to be the bad guys. I play a [gay] boy who's bottomed out in his life. His family takes him to [an ex-gay ministry], and he genuinely wants to give it a try. In the meantime, Robert Gant is this reporter who goes undercover [into the same ex-gay ministry] to get the scoop, and he and I fall in love. It's a beautiful, beautiful story.” 11

Every Tribe Entertainment chose an actor who has argued publicly (with an evangelical pastor) for the rights to same-sex marriage and gay adoption.


34 posted on 01/20/2006 9:32:49 PM PST by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: Timmy
Not to change the subject but we just returned from seeing "Pride and Prejudice".

Certainly not on a par with "Spear" as far as a christian message; however, still a very, very good movie and NOTHING objectionable.

Refreshing.

35 posted on 01/20/2006 9:34:19 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Esther Ruth
Click here to see what Christian leaders (who have seen the movie) have to say about it.... Hit "Enter" and then "Endorsements"

I am amazed at how some Christians continue to publicly trash and push away those we should be loving most. I could be wrong here, but I doubt that anybody was ever "hated" or "ridiculed" into the kingdom.

36 posted on 01/20/2006 9:34:40 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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To: Timmy; snopercod

I am so excited that this is out - I met a man at EAA Oshkosh this year who had a personal connection to this story. I have to dig up his card and see if he was related.


37 posted on 01/20/2006 9:38:18 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Timmy

Going to see it very soon. Thanks for the review.


38 posted on 01/20/2006 9:39:15 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Ask the Lord to make Himself real to you and receive His love today, while you still can!)
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To: Esther Ruth
Controversy swirls over 'gay' playing missionary in movie

OMG! Thank you for warning us.

39 posted on 01/20/2006 9:44:11 PM PST by Jorge
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To: WKB
The message of the movie is powerful and clear. People will be inspired and brought to a greater understanding of God's love when they see this movie, and learn about this story. It's about what the men did, and what their wives did, and how that changed a whole people-group...the power of love and forgiveness. It's about hearts open to doing God's will no matter what the cost. Chad had a job to do and he did it well...but this movie is not about Chad Allen any more than "Toy Story" is about Tom Hanks....the movie is about the message.
40 posted on 01/20/2006 9:51:02 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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