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Bush to visit NSA in defense of domestic spying
msnbc from ap ^ | 1 20 06 | ap

Posted on 01/20/2006 1:21:22 PM PST by flixxx

Updated: 2:21 p.m. ET Jan. 20, 2006 WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is opening a campaign to push back against criticism of its domestic spying program, ahead of congressional hearings into whether President Bush has the legal authority to eavesdrop on Americans.

President Bush will visit the ultra-secret National Security Agency on Wednesday, underscoring his claim that he has the constitutional authority to let intelligence officials listen in on international phone calls of Americans with suspected ties to terrorists.

“We are stepping up our efforts to educate the American people,” White House press secretary Scott McClellan said about Bush’s trip to the NSA, based at Fort Meade in Maryland.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush43; fortmeade; gwot; homelandsecurity; nsa; spying; terrorattack; terrorism; wiretap; wot
Need to go on the offensive about this VERY APPROPRIATE policy...especially with the Bin Laden tape from yesterday...
1 posted on 01/20/2006 1:21:23 PM PST by flixxx
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To: flixxx
I hope he finds and kicks the arse of the leaker.
2 posted on 01/20/2006 1:25:24 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: flixxx

It's not "domestic spying". It's intercepts of international transmissions to and/or from numbers associated with Al Qaida. If they're going to mischaracterize it four hundred times a day we should be correcting them four hundred times a day.


3 posted on 01/20/2006 1:28:46 PM PST by Dilbert56
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To: flixxx

I wonder just how much he'll see there. I remember a three-star General in the building once. He had a nice red "VISITOR" badge and an armed escort. He didn't get to see very much.

The "need to know" culture at the NSA is amazing. Presidents come and go. The NSA is always there.


4 posted on 01/20/2006 1:35:42 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Dilbert56

Say it often enough, it becomes true...that has worked before with the Media...


5 posted on 01/20/2006 1:35:50 PM PST by flixxx
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To: flixxx
The Bush administration is opening a campaign to push back against criticism of its domestic spying program, ahead of congressional hearings into whether President Bush has the legal authority to eavesdrop on Americans.

The writer is a graduate of the Jos. Goebel School of Journalism.

6 posted on 01/20/2006 1:39:31 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: flixxx

Good day not to go play golf at Fort Meade!


7 posted on 01/20/2006 2:10:12 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: msnimje

You are right it is legal...take a course on intelligence oversight.

These lawyer talking heads don't know what they are talking about, the President's authorities and don't want to acknowledge that the President retains war powers authorities and is the lead for foreign intelligence.

...NO PRESIDENT has accepted the "War Powers Act" as binding; Congressional FISA legislation is comformed with for reasonableness reasons-- it does not impede national security and protects rights,but the President is not bound by Congress on that either...for those who keep whining about FISA-- the FISA court of review admitted the President's "inherent" authorities to conduct "warrantless searches;" it is done for foreign intelligence not for personal or political gain and Congress has been informed...

Do not forget Article 1 Section 9 in the Constitution...Bush can suspend habeous corpus and throw the NYT editorial staff and journalists in jail for violating national secrets and if he can do that he can certainly use NSA for domestic surveillance tied to foreign intelligence.

...that also means he can keep those little 'sh..heads' in GITMO as long as wants irrespective of what any court says if he needs to play that card...


8 posted on 01/20/2006 5:38:44 PM PST by MaximusRules
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To: flixxx
Bush to visit NSA in defense of domestic spying

When will the MSM ever start with the TRUTH? This is not a DOMESTIC spying program. One end of the intercept MUST be outside the US.

9 posted on 01/21/2006 8:31:17 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: MrNatural

W in the house *ping*


10 posted on 01/21/2006 8:33:08 AM PST by Steel Wolf (If the Founders had wanted the President to be spying on our phone calls, they would have said so!)
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To: p23185

"One end of the intercept MUST be outside the US."

Sounds good...Do you really believe this is true?

Bridge, "Great East River", for sale...


11 posted on 01/21/2006 8:39:22 AM PST by dakine
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To: MaximusRules
Do not forget Article 1 Section 9 in the Constitution...Bush can suspend habeous corpus

Article I relates to Congressional powers, not executive powers.

Ex parte Merryman, 17 F. Cas. 144 (1861)
Ex Parte Milligan, 71 U.S. 1 (1866)

BOTH cases found Lincoln's suspensions of habeas corpus to be unconstitutional.
Not that ALL unilateral executive suspensions of habeas corpus would be, but those were.

12 posted on 01/21/2006 8:39:46 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Ax

Heads up...


13 posted on 01/21/2006 8:40:06 AM PST by cardinal4 (Hail to the Redskins!...It was a good year, we will be back next year...!)
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To: p23185
When will the MSM ever start with the TRUTH? This is not a DOMESTIC spying program. One end of the intercept MUST be outside the US.

It's a shorthand, designed to cause ruckus. There is no alternative shorthand, as use of the word "foreign" without more (i.e., "foreign spying program") is a yawner.

It takes a phrase to describe the nature of the surveillance; but I believe it is conceded that some people in the US (citizens and/or legal residents) are being monitored to some extent, without obtaining a warrant.

14 posted on 01/21/2006 8:43:13 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: MaximusRules
Do not forget Article 1 Section 9 in the Constitution...Bush can suspend habeous corpus and throw the NYT editorial staff and journalists in jail for violating national secrets and if he can do that he can certainly use NSA for domestic surveillance tied to foreign intelligence.

See today's news Man who sold U.S. secrets gets 12 years in prison

15 posted on 01/21/2006 8:44:27 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: p23185
See today's news Man who sold U.S. secrets gets 12 years in prison

A better link 12 years in prison for giving classified information to an Israeli diplomat

16 posted on 01/21/2006 9:17:49 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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