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Snuff out do-gooders before cigarettes, please
The Washington Times ^ | 1/12/06 | Tom Knott

Posted on 01/19/2006 4:34:38 PM PST by qam1

Here is a thumbs-down to the Smokefree D.C. do-gooders and the D.C. Council, which voted 11-1 in favor of a smoking ban that begins next year.

I am thinking of starting a Do-Gooder-free D.C. because of the scientifically proven study that shows freedom-hating do-gooders cause high blood pressure in others.

There is nothing like a smug, arrogant, condescending know-it-all to get the eyes rolling up in the back of your head. The city, unfortunately, is awash in this character type.

These self-important nitwits seem to think they know what is best for the masses and then pat themselves on the head after they have achieved their mission.

"It is a great day for everyone who works in or patronizes a bar or restaurant in the District of Columbia," said one of the co-founders of the nut-job group after 11 morally superior council members imposed legislation that mocks the celebrated individual liberties of a nation.

Sorry. It did not come across as a great day. It came across as just another amusing day in the bluest of blue precincts.

Really, I would prefer to have a Carbon Monoxide-Free D.C.
Or a Rat-Free D.C.
Or a Gang-Free D.C.
Or a Lead-Free D.C.
Or a Cholesterol-Free D.C.
Or a Body Odor-Free D.C.
Or an Ice Cream-Free D.C.
Or a Starbucks-Free D.C.

I can think of all kinds of practices and things that could be eliminated before I would be concerned with a smoky bar stuffed with drunks at midnight.

I would argue it is the right of the smoking town drunk to be a smoking town drunk, just as it is the right of servers to work in an establishment that caters to smoking town drunks.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: antismokinggnatzies; freedom; nannystate; pufflist; tomknott
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To: beandog

I guess you've never had to wait for a bus on a busy road. Get to suck in a lot of fumes then.


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Oh I've been in that situation...on many ocassions. One of the reasons I don't need to "suck" it in unecessarily.


41 posted on 01/19/2006 6:48:15 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
The fewer places it is allowed the better.

And your "allowance" trumps property rights, huh?

42 posted on 01/19/2006 6:50:09 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: teenyelliott

Smokers are too late to the property rights argument.

Where were they when ADA was forced upon all restaurant owners? Silent....


43 posted on 01/19/2006 6:51:32 PM PST by dakine
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To: eleni121
That's right, I drive by them...I don't stand there forced to breathe it in.

When you drive by people on the street they are forced to suck your fumes,

Meanwhile, nobody is forceing you to go to a restaurant/bar where smoking is going on

The Liberal Left and spineless Republicans have destroyed NYS in my lifetime.

Yes you have

What are we going to do about it?

The smart ones leave, you stay there and enjoy your Liberal Nanny State Utopia

44 posted on 01/19/2006 6:52:05 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: numberonepal

Property rights? Go smoke your brains out on your own property...just don't let that exhaust waft over to my side of the fence.


45 posted on 01/19/2006 6:58:15 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: teenyelliott

What you said! Good job.


46 posted on 01/19/2006 7:00:44 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: teenyelliott

What you said! Good job.


47 posted on 01/19/2006 7:00:52 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: eleni121
I'm sure I do, but not spraying carbon monoxide at them.

I'm personally offended by carbon dioxide. Stop breathing when you're around me.

48 posted on 01/19/2006 7:02:32 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: eleni121
No one is forcing you to enter any business. You chose to enter or not enter of your own free will. No one initiates force/harm against you to enter a business -- you are not kidnapped and forced to enter any business. 

You support initiating force/harm on people that are minding their own business -- they forced no one into their business. Every person entered of their own free will/choice.

Free association. The right to associate with whomever you chose so long as they too agree to associate with you.

You support initiating harm/force against innocent people. 

You are one of two things:

1) Ignorant.

2) A parasite.

Which are you? You chose.

49 posted on 01/19/2006 7:02:44 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: qam1
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis
50 posted on 01/19/2006 7:03:27 PM PST by microgood
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To: qam1
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis
51 posted on 01/19/2006 7:03:33 PM PST by microgood
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To: qam1
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis
52 posted on 01/19/2006 7:03:42 PM PST by microgood
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To: qam1

Meanwhile, nobody is forceing you to go to a restaurant/bar where smoking is going on
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And that is how it should be.

As for the rest of your smart alecky response...smokers' rights is not at the top of my priorities. Infanticide, extorrtionist taxes, homo marriage, etc are.

I really don't care about the smokers out there...as long as their exhaust stays away from me.


53 posted on 01/19/2006 7:04:00 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: qam1
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis
54 posted on 01/19/2006 7:04:31 PM PST by microgood
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To: qam1

Meanwhile, nobody is forceing you to go to a restaurant/bar where smoking is going on
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And that is how it should be.

As for the rest of your smart alecky response...smokers' rights is not at the top of my priorities. Infanticide, extorrtionist taxes, homo marriage, etc are.

I really don't care about the smokers out there...as long as their exhaust stays away from me.


55 posted on 01/19/2006 7:05:13 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Zon

I would say both but that's just me. LOL


56 posted on 01/19/2006 7:05:36 PM PST by beandog (Proud bRushbot)
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To: Zon

My I suggest that you are both: ignorant and a parasite.


57 posted on 01/19/2006 7:06:36 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
The smoke blown in the direction of anyone's lungs can harm/damage the person.

Bull. If that were the case, why didn't cancer rates skyrocket back in the day when everyone smoked?

My parents smoked all over the place when I was a kid. People even smoked in grocery stores.

And shockingly enough, there are no epidemic lung cancer scenarios from second hand smoke.

Curious.

58 posted on 01/19/2006 7:06:39 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: winston2
Ah ------- Clean air in restaurants!

FWIW, all the restaurants I have been in here in SE Michigan have smoking sections which successfully accomodate smokers with excellent ventilation systems. I have NEVER been able to detect smoke in the non smoking sections.

But yet you Fers are never satisfied. Got news for you sport, your favorite bar that ultimately succumbs to a smoking ban will be destined to going out of business.

For some reason I suspect that you really don't care because it doesn't concern you. You will merely try to find another bar to drop into once in a while not really giving a ratsass for the neighborhood bars that will also go out of business and that you would never ever think of dropping into.

Kinda like Democraps and their love of flyover country.........Not!

59 posted on 01/19/2006 7:06:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I break for pikas, swerve for skunks and accelerate for possum......squirrels are on their own)
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To: winston2
Ah ------- Clean air in restaurants!

FWIW, all the restaurants I have been in here in SE Michigan have smoking sections which successfully accomodate smokers with excellent ventilation systems. I have NEVER been able to detect smoke in the non smoking sections.

But yet you Fers are never satisfied. Got news for you sport, your favorite bar that ultimately succumbs to a smoking ban will be destined to going out of business.

For some reason I suspect that you really don't care because it doesn't concern you. You will merely try to find another bar to drop into once in a while not really giving a ratsass for the neighborhood bars that will also go out of business and that you would never ever think of dropping into.

Kinda like Democraps and their love of flyover country.........Not!

60 posted on 01/19/2006 7:07:14 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I break for pikas, swerve for skunks and accelerate for possum......squirrels are on their own)
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