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Los Angeles LOYOLAN ^ | 11/30/05 | Rachel Jones

[RonDog]

From www.laloyolan.com:

Voice of controversy

Right-wing speaker will come to campus in January

By: Rachel Jones

Issue date: 11/30/05 Section: News

LMU will soon welcome the voice behind arguably the most feisty Barbie doll ever made. This January political commentator and outspoken conservative Ann Coulter will speak on campus in the Loyolan's fourth annual First Amendment Week.

Coulter signed on to speak last Wednesday, Nov. 23. First Amendment Week will be held Jan. 16 to 19, with Coulter speaking in Burns Back Court on Jan. 19 at 7:30 p.m. The Loyolan is in the process of recruiting a liberal speaker for the same event.

Dr. Evan Gerstmann, the chair of the Political Science Department, spoke at the Loyolan's inaugural First Amendment Week in 2003.

"The First Amendment is at the core of any university's mission. Without the right to speak one's mind openly and to hear unfamiliar ideas, we don't learn and grow as people."

Gerstmann described Coulter as a "polarizing figure."

"I view her as having a detrimental impact on public discourse," he said. "She is often dishonest in her rhetoric and chooses to attack opposing ideas in the most extreme terms rather than look for common ground."

Loyolan Managing Editor Natalie Nordseth arranged Coulter's visit.

"We chose Ann Coulter because we knew she'd get people's attention," she said. "Coulter's speech will help remind the student body what the First Amendment allows, and I hope that it will encourage students to really think about their rights."

Coulter has written four New York Times Booklist bestsellers, most recently "How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)." Coulter currently writes a weekly column for Universal Press Syndicate. She has made guest appearances on a variety of television shows, from "Wolf Blitzer Reports" to "The O'Reilly Factor," and has been profiled in Harper's Bazaar and Elle magazines.

Tres Lillard, a junior communications major, is a big fan of Coulter. "I'm excited," Lillard said. "She's a blast to watch, she's really witty…she's become the big mouth for the Republican Party, which is something we haven't had for a while."

Coulter has a reputation for being a divisive public speaker. In October 2004, two University of Arizona students threw pies at Coulter while she was giving a speech in front of 2,500 people at the university. The men missed Coulter, but were arrested and spent the night in the Pima County Jail. According to the Daily Wildcat student newspaper, a student group known as "Al Pieda" claimed responsibility.

In a column after the incident, Coulter said, "Fortunately for me, liberals not only argue like liberals, they also throw like girls."

"Ann Coulter will probably offend many students," said Loyolan Editor in Chief Stephen A. Murphy. "But that's OK. This goes beyond liberal versus conservative, this is about our rights as Americans."

Murphy said that the Loyolan's First Amendment Week was made possible due to the "overwhelming success of our business staff" and the "cooperation and support of Student Affairs."

Even some of Coulter's employers have had trouble with her strong words. MSNBC fired Coulter after she told a disabled Vietnam War veteran, "People like you caused us to lose that war." She was also let go from the conservative online magazine National Review in October 2001 when she gave this suggestion on how to deal with Muslim terrorists: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

A letter to readers on the magazine's Web site maintains, "It was Ann who decided to sever her ties with National Review-not the other way around." USA Today hired Coulter in 2004 to provide commentary from the Democratic National Convention in Boston, but later rejected her column, entitled "Spawn of Satan Convention."

Coulter attended Cornell University and University of Michigan Law School, where she received her J.D. and served as an editor of the Michigan Law Review. She lives in New York City.

[Republicus2001]

it's Loyola Marymount - hasn't been Loyola U. since 1972 - ya know the school that Hank Gathers went to ...

[kellynla]

"it's Loyola Marymount - hasn't been . since 1972"

I know that. So why are you telling me???
I never referred to it as "Loyola U"...
maybe you are addressing the wrong person...

[ppaul]

Notice that she is not speaking at the most radical of leftist bastions, UW Madison, UC Berkely, UO Eugene, UW Seattle, or her own alma mater in Ithaca.

[Jimmy Valentine]

The doll is not even anatomically correct!

Everyone knows her eyes are laser beam green, not baby blue.

Hee hee! Did I fool you with that one?

[RonDog]

I'm here now at LMU - can't wait

So, did YOU get in to see Ann...?

...or were one of the HUNDREDS of LMU students who had to be turned away at the door of this "standing room only" crowd last night -- held in the (MUCH too small) Burns Back Court?

PS - Coming soon, my NEW thread:

report: HUNDREDS turned away as Ann Coulter ENERGIZES packed house at Loyola Marymount - PHOTOS!

If you like, you can post your PRELIMINARY reactions to last night's events on THIS thread, and the RE-post them on my after-action report thread, as soon as it goes up -- some time later today.

[RonDog]

Here is a "thread view" check on THIS thread - so far:

Voice of controversy [ANN COULTER begins YAF tour @ Loyola L.A.: Coming soon to a college near YOU!]
	Posted by RonDog On News/Activism 01/18/2006 6:00:34 PM PST · 64 replies · 1,129+ views Los Angeles LOYOLAN ^ | 11/30/05 | Rachel Jones

[RonDog]

report: HUNDREDS turned away as Ann Coulter ENERGIZES packed house at Loyola Marymount - PHOTOS!

O.K., here is a preview of that thread...

One of the BIG winners of last night's event -- besides ANN, of course -- was THIS courageous (and determined) young woman, from www.laloyolan.com:

Natalie Nordseth - Managing Editor

Natalie Nordseth is a political science and communication studies major from Dallas, Texas.
You can e-mail her at nnordseth@theloyolan.com.

Natalie was one of the driving forces behind last night's ENORMOUS (if somewhat imperfect) success, which was sponsored by the LMU student newspaper, The LOYOLAN.

Way to go, NATALIE!

Note to potential organizers of "Ann" events at OTHER colleges:

NATALIE got to hang out with Ann, before AND after the event, as she SHE was the event co-ordinator.

How's THAT for a reward for doing the right thing?

[Republicus2001]

heh - I left office at 4:30pm and saw the line forming up at 5:45pm. Got tired of waiting and it was too cold to stand in line

[Republicus2001]

I'll be waiting for my Loyolan tomorrow to read Nat's column

[Steve Van Doorn]

During Carville’s opening statements he was explaining his credentials. Carville was bragging about his ‘4.0’ in school. Which we found out was his blood alcohol level during graduation. It didn’t seem to bother him that he always got D’s and F’s in college because in the end it really didn’t matter after what the demarcate party has done for him today. One student stood up and told him how she wanted to be just like him, there was a large applause in the audience. He explained how he was very disappointed that he didn’t take a masturbation class because he would have gotten an ‘A’ in that class.

Carville stated many times how corrupt the Bush administration is as though it ONLY happens in the Bush administration. One example of his many lies was when he stated that only one person from the Clinton administration went to prison.

To his credit Carville was straight forward and on point. In short much easier understood than Coulter. Coulter made dozens of good and interesting points but she said them in such a way you REALLY had to keep up with politics to know what she was saying. Even my wife had to ask me what she was talking about a couple times.

There was some heckling from the back against Coulter and a staged ‘walk out’ of about 10 people. Most of the people were respectful but there was some serious anger in the room.

I believe Ann Coulter is great, I never seen her live before tonight. I think she was distracted or tired. She did make a great comeback when one student said she was taking a critical thinking and rhetorical reading class and yet she was reading from a pamphlet and really knocking Coulter hard (the student took it to a personal level.) Ann simply asked her why are you reading from a pamphlet if you are taking that class?

Another comeback was when a student asked a long question part of it asking her, why she is trying to take women’s right of speech away? Coulter responded paraphrased, “why would I do that? That is how I earn my living and everything else you asked is simply moronic.”

Twice Ann didn’t answer the question that was given to her. This is why I think she was tired or distracted. For example one guy stood up and gave her a softball question, in my opinion. He said, ‘Carville and yourself show the extremes in both parties, what about people like me that are in the middle?’
Ann answered by saying how lunatic fringe the Demarcate party is today. A student stood up (out of order) and said, “You don’t listen, do you? Why don’t you answer his question?” Ann replied, “I did.”

The loudest response of the night came when a student asked Ann something like, ‘I respect the first amendment but don’t you feel anything when you use your rhetoric to hurt good people while you are making millions from what you say?’ (I don’t remember what Ann said but she did NOT answer the question.) Here is an article on this in the Laloyolan (school paper):
Students fill Burns Back Court for Carville and Coulter

[oolatec]

She seriously needs to eat. Food.

[GladesGuru]

I have to ask just when, and by what authority, have Liberals and the treasonous suddenly become "good people"?

[RonDog]

EXCELLENT report, Steve!

See also the NEW thread:

report: HUNDREDS turned away as Ann Coulter ENERGIZES packed house at Loyola Marymount - PHOTOS!
	Posted by RonDog On News/Activism 01/20/2006 5:58:42 PM PST · 48 replies · 2,679+ views

[Steve Van Doorn]

those were not my words.

[GladesGuru]

I should have made it more clear - the question was a rhetorical one.

Sorry 'bout that.

[RonDog]

FR is such a "Google-friendly" place!

Here are the FIRST TWO hits from a Google search for "Ann Coulter" Loyola:

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[Rummyfan]

BFLR....

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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Attended then Jesuit men's Loyola University of Los Angeles in the early 1960'a, prior to its becoming a co-ed Loyola Marymount University, darn it:

TONY COELHO - Former Majority Whip (D) of the House of Representatives who went on to resign from Congress due to campaign finance violations

PATRICK WAYNE - Son of JOHN WAYNE who went on to act in the Vietnam War Motion Picture titled "The GREEN BERETS" ...starring his own father

ALOHA RONNIE Guyer - Former college-mate of PATRICK WAYNE & TONY COELHO / Veteran of the 1st Major Battle of the Vietnam War depicted in the Vietnam War Motion Picture titled "WE WERE SOLDIERS" ...starring MEL GIBSON and SAM ELLIOTT

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Pictures)


"Yo, Loyola Lions"...

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[oldbrowser]

"I view her as having a detrimental impact on public discourse," he said. "She is often dishonest in her rhetoric and chooses to attack opposing ideas in the most extreme terms rather than look for common ground."

It sounds like he is a little dishonest in his rhetoric.
Maybe he should look for common ground.

[RonDog]

Sorry that we could not get YOU in to see Ann this time. :(

We had a hard enough time getting even THREE of us into this "LMU-only" event.

The GOOD news is, that Ann is coming BACK to Los Angeles on March 27...

...and we are working on a way to get MANY MORE of us to see her then. :o)