Posted on 01/15/2006 4:00:20 PM PST by armydawg1
The timing sounds like he was being groomed for a political career, and a tour in VN was a necessary "ticket punch" for that career. His bio lists him as being a captain in '59. Haven't seen what rank he was in '66, but I don't think he was leading from the front by that point
I would be curious as to his family history
"Is this what we really want to do?"
Seems like it's running about 8-2
8 for 2 against
That's just an unofficial guess.
This seems awful 'loose' and questionable material to be basing an investigation on. And without him signing a 180 and releasing his records I don't think anything short of a purposeful challenge to him by his service 'buddies' will carry much, if any weight.
That's why I believe he's more open to the corruption charges and without further evidence believe that would be a preferable route. I would love to see him taken down as much as the next Freeper, I just don't want it to come back and haunt us.
Ouch -- I'll bet this was a serious enough hit to "earn" a Purple Heart!
Semper Fi
Actually, the CNS article came out AFTER it was brought up on FR on a Code Pink article.
Murtha is the one that keeps bringing up his service record.
I wonder if any GOPers would be hurt if that can of worms was open.
Giving a ton of leyway to Murtha (being a fellow US Marine), his diengeuous statements are truly his current ideals and he's justified them to himself in some convoluted form of anti-government rhetorical posturing.
Which brings into question his sanity.
Concurrently, his Purple Hearts coming into focus seems like simple copy cat political attacks left over from sKerry.
You know, those words are very similar to the ones that have been uttered, muttered, and screeched by the left against Bush....
Murtha better put some ice on that.
Murtha was in the Reserves for a long while, then volunteers to go to Nam in '66-67, gets a few decorations, then gets elected to the Pennsylvania house in the 68 elections.
Then over the next 23 years he never receives has a significant deployment or receives another award until his DSM kiss at his retirement in 1990? Hmmmmmmm.......
He was an Intelligence Officer, not a Commanding Officer.
Since a famous incident on Guadalcanal, The Marines have perfered Their intellegence officer chained to a field desk, rock, or some other nonmovable object and not in the field looking for the enemy.
Lt Colonel Frank Goettge earned his Purple Heart the hard way on Guadalcanal, he died for it, leading a small patrol in search of intelligence, and as such has been The example of what a good Intelligence officer should never do, go off and look for the enemy.
Add that to the list of why Muthra's Purple Hearts are suspect, They fly in the face of Marine SOP.
I agree; he does! All the time! Lets just say we agree on the goal but aren't quite there yet on the method of achieving it.
Have a good one! I have to get some meds in me and some rest or I'll be hurtin' for certain.
Exactly. I'm suprised at those on this thread who would give a free pass to someone who may have received military awards through fraud. They must hold concepts such as honor and integrity in low regard.
I agree with you. He's a deluded old man. Leave him alone.
Although I'm new here (since November) I've gained a lot of respect for FR and its people. I'd hate to see anything impugn its fine reputation.
Sorry, but I have to leave it at that. I have to get some meds in me or I'll be in trouble.
Take care!
I agree.
It's on him whether or not he did or did not earn the Purple Hearts. He has to live with that.
But his arguements have been shot down several times, the military and the vets already hate his guts, so to speak.
There is very little, if any, gain to be had in going after him like that. It's in the past when he is giving up a LOT of stuff to be used now.
I've seen most of the threads on this guy Don Bailey.It's compelling, but how can we know it's true?
The way I see it, Murtha is an EX-Marine, he turned his back on the Corps.It's as if he had no military service at all.
But,if we want to demand he sign a SF180 and release his medical records, that's fair game.We have to be prepared to listen to the "How dare you question my patriotism" crap.But so what? We know that drill.
If Murtha is proud of his service,he has nothing to hide.
There is a matter of truth. If you dont want to know the facts about traitors just read the nation and code pink news and stay out of FR.
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