China map lays claim to Americas ( China Won't Stop at Taiwan?)

BBC NEWS ^ | Friday, 13 January 2006, 13:23 GMT | BBC NEWS (general staff)

[Candor7]

Well, China also invented the Internet along with Al Gore?

The discovery is probably true. The journals of Yongle have long been know to have recited the discovery of America.

Of course the support for this version of history comes from: MUSLIMS!

See realted site:

www.admiralzhenghe.org/

One more cultural incursion by Muslims and Chinese.

Egg foo yung in a Burqua!

[SandRat]

Does this mean America is a Renegade Breakaway Province of China?

[xrp]

It doesn't matter. The Vikings discovered, landed and settled in North America long before 1421.

There's also evidence that Hebrews from a couple of thousand years ago (or more) landed and explored the Americas. The Egyptians, too. If the Chinese finally made it to the Americas in 1421, then it was about damn time.

[Capriole]

It's not really difficult to believe that they sailed east and discovered the west coast of the Americas. But it's a lot harder to accept that they not only circumnavigated the globe but went up and down the coast of every contenent, sailed up the major rivers of every continent, pushed their way in wooden boats through the ice-clogged Northwest Passage that defied European ships for centuries, circumnavigated Antarctica and realized there was land beneath the ice, and charted the furthest, most snowbound portions of Russia.

[beyond the sea]

Boy...... look, they were seers.

California is out in the Pacific Ocean.

Bye, bye Babs!

[Mike Darancette]

It's possible and that would have been quite a feat of seamanship.

Followed the Vikings by 400 years.

[beyond the sea]

No wonder New Orleans flooded. The Mississippi ended before it got to the Gulf.

[beyond the sea]

Does this mean America is a Renegade Breakaway Province of China?

Looks like California broke away.

[pissant]

Unfortuantely for them, they won't even get Tawain.

[JoeSixPack1]

Zheng He, a Muslim mariner and explorer, ...

Oy vey

[joesnuffy]

Patton and McArthur were right on...

[chilepepper]

the map is not the territory...

[Jeff Chandler]

There's also evidence that Hebrews from a couple of thousand years ago (or more) landed and explored the Americas. The Egyptians, too.

The Egyptians had ships which were more than capable, better, in fact, than those available to Columbus. They also had astronomical knowledge which would have aided in navigation, and some believe they had a form of reverse osmosis to obtain fresh water from the sea. But the Hebrews? What evidence is there that they even had the technology for such a feat?

[ARCADIA]

They didn't just discover America. From that map they were also the first to observe that the Earth was round, and the first to explore the entire coastline of every major continent on earth. It would have been an enormous logistical effort of decades involving a major flotilla of ships, a very advanced system of navigation, the development of the kind of sophisticated timepieces that wouldn't be known by the west for centuries. It's amazing that none of the ships logs, the navigation system, or the highly valuable timepieces survive; but then again, neither did the numerous land based staging areas required to water, service, and feed such a far flung fleet.

[willyd]

This map is very suspect. China has a reputation for forging everything from art to missing link fossiles. This is just an attempt to rewrite our history in a dangerous way. It is interesting that the explorer was muslim. Is this an attempt to motivate the US Muslims to fight for the return of their holy land in the Americas? I read somewhere that this version is being taught heavily in the mosques in Mexico. I will try and find a link for it.

[ARCADIA]

They clearly explored the land area to map out the course of major rivers and the location of inland mountain ranges. Then again the chinese probably had satellite technology during the 14th century. [read: the map is a sloppy crock. It is like looking at an inscription that dates itself "300 BC"]

[mtbopfuyn]

Why do people need to hold on to the belief that Columbus was the one and only explorer?

[wizr]

Hmmm. Looks like they sailed into 'Frisco Bay and sailed down into the flooded San Joaquin Valley. Much of the Valley did flood before dams were built, but I don't know if there was enough water to sail a vessel through.

[garyhope]

Exactly. My thought also. That amount of sailing and exploring would have been very, very difficult in those days. I think it's fake.