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President Bush, Tom DeLay Have Chilly Relations
NewsMax ^ | January 9, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 01/09/2006 12:57:50 PM PST by Kaslin

In public, the relationship between President Bush and former GOP House majority leader Tom DeLay has been friendly, but in private it’s been downright distant.

According to this week’s Time magazine, while on the surface they have been cordial to each other, there has been a "longtime chill” between the two men.

Time describes their relationship as strictly professional. "DeLay admires Bush's leadership but still thinks of himself as the strongest conservative on the block," a DeLay friend told Time. "They perceive DeLay as a bull in a china shop. They appreciate him as their protector and retriever."

For his part, Bush was publicly supportive of DeLay during his re-election bid in 2004, but the inside story is quite different.

"Privately ... he questioned his fellow Texan's mojo. Bush had scored 10 points higher than DeLay in the Representative's district in 2004, and that was only after Bush had recorded a telephone message to help rally local Republicans. 'I can't believe I had to do robocalls for him, the President said bitingly to an Oval Office visitor," writes the magazine.

A point of contention between the two is top White House political guru Karl Rove. DeLay had no help from Rove in rising to power in Texas, something which not many Texas politicos can claim. DeLay is said to be "less than enthusiastic about Rove’s much vaunted political savvy."

"Karl thinks of (DeLay) as someone a little bit too opinionated for his own good," an official close to both men told Time. "And DeLay thinks of Karl as a former mail vendor, not some great guru."

White House advisers allege that the men around Bush have treated DeLay as a necessary burden, noting that while he may have had an unmatched grip on the House and Washington lobbyists, DeLay is not the kind of guy — in background and temperament — the President feels comfortable with.

Time quotes a an unnamed Republican allegedly close to the President's inner circle as saying of the man Time sneeringly calls "the former exterminator” that "They have always seen him as beneath them, more blue collar. He's seen as a useful servant, not someone you would want to vacation with," the source sniffed.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; bush; delay
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To: Miss Marple
Isn' that a load of codswallop?

You bet it is....and I bet Dubya is more comfortable sitting around with a *blue collar* worker than any of those stuffed shirts in DC........this is pure BS..

41 posted on 01/09/2006 5:37:51 PM PST by mystery-ak (End Freepathons, become a monthly donor...)
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To: Kaslin

Time Magazine?....man, this is suspect from the get go!


42 posted on 01/09/2006 5:41:50 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion

Exactly


43 posted on 01/09/2006 6:00:57 PM PST by Kaslin (The terrorists must be allowed to attack us again.... Sincerly A leftwinger)
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To: mystery-ak

Neither do I


44 posted on 01/09/2006 6:04:32 PM PST by Kaslin (The terrorists must be allowed to attack us again.... Sincerly A leftwinger)
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To: Kaslin
I posted the TIME article here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1555038/posts  

This is one of the worst pieces of "journalism" that I have seen in ages - 9 paragraphs, 8 unnamed sources.

the President said bitingly to an Oval Office visitor

a DeLay friend says

says an official close to both men

top Bush advisers tell TIME

Republican close to the President's inner circle says

an adviser said after talking to White House aides

says a Bush friend intimately familiar with the staff protocols

A Bush aide said it 

This passes for journalism?

 

45 posted on 01/09/2006 6:25:25 PM PST by pittsburgh gop guy (Be not afraid...)
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To: AmericanChef

I think Bush said to cameras that he does not believe that Delay is guilty.


46 posted on 01/09/2006 6:43:01 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: MNJohnnie
**seem so desperate to give Delay a free ride for his ties to Abramoff.**

Have you seen any charges filed against Delay yet in that case? I heard that Delay was not involved - not mentioned in the legal papers. If guilt by association of accepting money from bad guys is what you want - they get ready for an empty Congress. Abramoff spread his money around like a whore with syphilis.
47 posted on 01/09/2006 6:47:43 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Kaslin

If this is true, why on earth does Bush go out of his way to say Delay is innocent? This is hogwash.


48 posted on 01/09/2006 6:50:32 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Kaslin

AND they couldn't find anyone to speak for attribution.

No names. Just "friend, source" etc.


49 posted on 01/09/2006 6:58:28 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

I noticed one of the authors was Mathew Cooper. So it's no surprise to me


50 posted on 01/09/2006 9:05:03 PM PST by Kaslin (The terrorists must be allowed to attack us again.... Sincerly A leftwinger)
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To: MineralMan

New Smax? Haven't heard that one before. Personally, I call it Newsmin.


51 posted on 01/10/2006 12:41:36 AM PST by Phocion ("Protection" really means exploiting the consumer. - Milton Friedman)
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To: California Patriot

I guess you will never truly know until Bush gives Delay a Presidential Pardon if he is convicted of a money laundering crime in the Texas courts.

Again, I say, Bush is no dummy. He knows what a good job Delay has done with keeping the Congress together on votes the administration wanted. This has not been the case lately since Delay has been out of leadership position. This is the exact result the DemocRATs wanted when they wrongly indicted Delay in the first place. The GOP is nuts to have that indictment rule in the first place. The DemocRATs don't have it for their people. That GOP rule that a person has to step down from leadership if only indicted is nuts. It only encourages DemocRATS to bring on frivolous indictments against GOP members of Congress and ties GOP hands of doing the same to the DemocRATS.


52 posted on 01/10/2006 9:13:20 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: California Patriot
If someone can convince me...

No one can convince you unless you're open to it. However, the following quote from the article is attributed to the President. I can all but guarantee you that it is a phony simply because GWB doesn't talk this way. He certainly wouldn't do so to "an Oval Office visitor." Furthermore, the "quote" -- a single sentence -- obviously has no context to it. If it was said, what was said before and after, and by whom?

"I can't believe I had to do robocalls for him," the President said bitingly to an Oval Office visitor, writes the magazine.

If this unnamed visitor even exists, notice that TIME has not even applied the usual obtuse clues to his or her identity, such as "an official," "a White House official," "a source close to the White House" -- that sort of thing.

People don't just visit the Oval Office. They sure as heck don't just visit the Oval Office and, wham, out of the blue have the President of the United States blurt out something critical of another elected official.

53 posted on 01/10/2006 9:32:00 AM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin

GW is OK but I'll always like Tom Delay better. I like his style despite the Jack Abramoff mess


54 posted on 01/10/2006 9:34:46 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: MNJohnnie

Shaddup. Tom Delays is the man! I just wish he had never met Jack Abramoff. Other than that Tom has done great by America. A lot better than idiots like John McCain with his dumb anti torture bills and dumb campaign reform measures. Tom Delay is giant to the sniveling RINOs and hacks that populate todays Republican party. Look at that Arlen Spector on TV today. Tom Delay is head and shoulders above him


55 posted on 01/10/2006 9:40:11 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: OldFriend
education reform which has led to an across the board increase in scores for minority students, etc.

Please cite the section of the Constitution that authorizes nonsense like No Child Left Behind.

56 posted on 01/10/2006 9:56:47 AM PST by jmc813 (People who use the term "liberaltarian" are gay)
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To: conservative blonde

I agree on all points, except that knowing about DeLay's good job and appreciating him are two different things.


57 posted on 01/10/2006 4:16:52 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Wolfstar

The story may be partly or wholly untrue. But the White House does seem to prefer the go-along, get-along types to the real fighters. That's what lends the story credibility, in my book. I don't see why the quote about "robocalls" seems phony.


58 posted on 01/10/2006 4:18:32 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: California Patriot

As I said, no one can convince you unless you are open to it.


59 posted on 01/10/2006 4:27:24 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Calusa

What's so unusual about having "chilly" relations?

Being's as they're both from Texas, the President and Delay no doubt get together every few weeks to swap "chilly" recipe's --- you know, the good ol' fashioned fire-breathing halapinio kind found down near Crawford and Austin, Texas.


60 posted on 01/10/2006 6:39:29 PM PST by Edit35
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