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Gay and legally married
Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel ^ | 1/9/06 | Terry Bush

Posted on 01/09/2006 9:36:27 AM PST by Dane

Gay and legally married By Terry Bush Posted January 9 2006

We finally tied the knot! My husband and I got married in Vancouver, B.C., Aug. 17, following with a cruise to Alaska. Having been together for eight and a half years, we could now express our feelings to each other publicly and become part of this institution that we have witnessed friends and family members join throughout our lives. I finally got to experience and feel what they did on that special day.

The difference here is that we are both men.

Some people are trying, in the name of the Lord, to do everything in their power to stop this from happening in the U.S., and I feel sorry for them. There is no basis for their claim. Picking and choosing Bible verses is what they did to try to stop integration and interracial marriage.

My first relationship of 18 great years ended with the other's death 10 years ago. I was not "privileged" to marry at that time.

I say "privileged" because those who are trying to keep me in second-class status take this action for granted. Heterosexuals can get married one day and divorced another.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: danesobsession; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage
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To: richardtavor
In ignorance they will point out other laws in Leviticus which Christians do not follow (such as dietary and ceremonial laws). Its always good to use this verse and Romans because it shows the position of homosexuality in the new covenant (ie still a sin)..

But even then they will have no issue ignoring scripture..

41 posted on 01/09/2006 10:38:49 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: meandog
BUT, Jesus countermanded much of the draconian punishment when he forgave both the woman at the well and the adulterous woman that the Pharisees brought before him.

Note his words to the adulterous woman: go and sin no more. Christ offers forgiveness and the same grace the protect me from my sin can protect a homosexual from theirs, that is if they turn away.

42 posted on 01/09/2006 10:40:24 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: TerraFirma
""He is not married by measurement."

They measure them now? Boy, I wouldn't want to go to one of those weddings"."


Gives a whole new meaning to "tying the knot"...
44 posted on 01/09/2006 10:42:38 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: richardtavor

so, the last time you sinned unintentionally, how did the folks you attend services with enjoy the young bull without blemish you brought as a sin offering?


45 posted on 01/09/2006 10:43:12 AM PST by dmz
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To: napscoordinator

In saying "the more dead, the better" I intended that to be a statement of what is involved in the culture of death as I described it; not what I beleive. I don't want homosexuals to die from their unhealthy sexual activity, if that is what you thought I meant. I oppose normalizing homosexual sex because I don't want people to get sick and die just like I would not promote that kids smoke or do crack.


46 posted on 01/09/2006 10:44:31 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Dane

He sounds like a 'blushing bride' and probably wore white at the wedding.


47 posted on 01/09/2006 10:44:38 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: dmz

I usually just bring some ribeye steaks and bbq 'em.


48 posted on 01/09/2006 10:45:05 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: StoneGiant

:-D )))


49 posted on 01/09/2006 10:45:25 AM PST by RichInOC (Why would shepherd boys have sex with each other when the job comes with a harem?)
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To: Alouette
So, that means it is OK for Christians to commit adultery, bestiality, incest, etc. since Jesus abolished all of that stuff?

...indeed not! But sin is sin, and homosexuality is by definition of sin no worse or better than any other transgression (the matter of sin being pretty black or white with Our Heavenly Father). Therefore, IMHO that stoning to death a homosexual would indeed be pretty draconian. After all, would you also stone to death someone who did not keep the Sabbath Holy, dishonored his father or mother, or coveted his neighbor's possessions?

50 posted on 01/09/2006 10:49:24 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: N3WBI3
Note his words to the adulterous woman: go and sin no more. Christ offers forgiveness and the same grace the protect me from my sin can protect a homosexual from theirs, that is if they turn away.

No disagreement here...He also said to forgive "seven times seventy" in illustrating the degree (forever) of God's ultimate forgiveness for sinners who repent.

51 posted on 01/09/2006 10:51:09 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: Dane

The author's thesis is the same thing as saying that beating a dead horse causes no harm.


52 posted on 01/09/2006 10:51:21 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: LIConFem

You're my kind of sinner. Let's eat.


53 posted on 01/09/2006 10:52:12 AM PST by dmz
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To: darkangel82

Yup, and those articles he posted have inspired others to post things like the cartoon on post 32.

Kewl!


54 posted on 01/09/2006 10:53:37 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: meandog
sin is sin, and homosexuality is by definition of sin no worse or better than any other transgression

...indeed not! There are gradations and levels of sin in Mosaic Law, and convicting a person of a capital crime is extremely difficult.

Committing a homosexual act, or adulatery or bestiality, unless performed in public in front of witnesses, is not likely to result in a conviction. Eating a non-kosher animal is not punishable by death.

55 posted on 01/09/2006 10:58:29 AM PST by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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To: richardtavor
He forgave all sin, not just adultery and homosexuality. But sin is still sin--when he healed people, what did he say? Go and sin no more. If a person is in open rebellion to G-d (as this person obviously is), then it is very difficult for him to hear and recognize the voice of G-d.) I recommend for those of you (meaning all of us) that struggle with the connection of Jewish concepts and the relation of the Law with Christians that you read "Galatians" by Avi ben Mordechai. I don't want to get in a theological debate about Law vs. Grace, but it is good that we all search for the Truth.

I concur, with the understanding that all sin is offensive to Our Heavenly Father; IOW there is no degree of sin. Therefore the sin of a homosexual act is just as bad as fornication (guilty), lying (guilty), adultery (guilty), dishonoring parents (guilty), failing to keep a holy Sabbath (guilty), (stealing) guilty, drunkedness (guilty), lust (guilty), coveting a neighbor's wife (guilty), etc., etc.

56 posted on 01/09/2006 10:58:49 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: Alouette
...indeed not! There are gradations and levels of sin in Mosaic Law, and convicting a person of a capital crime is extremely difficult.

Well then, you stick to Mosaic Law, and I'll stick to Christianity...

57 posted on 01/09/2006 11:01:59 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: napscoordinator

Regardless of which translation that you use, He says that "I did not come to destroy the Law, but to fulfill it." He also said, "Do not do as the Pharisees do, but what they say--by this, he meant that they were hypocrites, but that they knew the Law. Does it mean that Christians are under the Law? If they choose not to be under all of the Law handed down by Moses to the Jews, then no they are not under the Mosaic Law. However, I believe, that to us gentiles, we are still accountable for our sin (as are Jews). No one (including Jews)have ever been 'saved' by their performance of the Law (it is impossible.) Were not Abraham, Issac and Jacob all saved before the Law was handed down? We gentiles believe in salvation through the Messiah Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew means Annointed One.) I believe as He says in Romans 11:24 "For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?" Israel is the olive tree. Our sins are paid for by Jesus, but payment is necessary.


58 posted on 01/09/2006 11:02:13 AM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Dane

-No matter what you try to do, we're legally married and always will be -- "until death do us part." -

It's not US trying to do anything to YOU. And death? I'm betting his first boy toy died of AIDs, so his second might not last too long, either.


59 posted on 01/09/2006 11:17:21 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Alouette
...indeed not! There are gradations and levels of sin in Mosaic Law, and convicting a person of a capital crime is extremely difficult.

Mosaic (Levitican) Law is extremely harsh (IMHO) as in (KJV) LEV 20:10 "And the man that commiteth adultery with another man's wife, even he that commiteth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and adulteress shall SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH!"...

However, how do you explain that King David who committed adultery with the wife of Uriah and even had Uriah placed in the front ranks in battle so he would be killed was not punished by God; nor was the woman at the well in the New Testament, nor the woman caught in the very act of adultery? Perhaps Moses got the interpretation wrong?

60 posted on 01/09/2006 11:22:43 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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