[Dajjal]

This article is an important counterpart to my usual postings about Muslim End Time beliefs. Usually my goal is to explain how some Muslims are now thinking that the US and our Allies either collectively are the evil "Dajjal" (if Dajjal is a metaphor) or will be the base from which the evil Dajjal will carry out his evil activities when he comes (if Dajjal will be an individual person).

This article represents a different interpretation of the Dajjal hadiths by a rather well-known Muslim preacher, Harun Yahya.

I do not share Mr. Yahya's POV, but believe it deserves a fair hearing, and a posting at Free Republic for informational purposes.

If I may summarize his opinion (and I hope I'm doing it justice) it goes something like this:
* The signs are all around us that the world is coming to an end, and that the Day of Judgment is near
* Isa (the Muslim version of Jesus) will be descending on a cloud soon for his second coming
* Materialism, atheism, lust, greed, hatred, etc. are becoming more and more powerful as the End Time approaches
* Some Muslims are misinterpretting the Qur'an and becoming terrorists
* Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. are likewise turning to retaliatory violence against this terrorism
* This spiral of increasing violence is what Satan wants
* God wants us to sit down resolve our various disagreements peacefully

I hope I haven't mangled Yahya's beliefs too badly in that summary. It is a bit too Muslim-hippy-ish for my taste. But, frankly, I wish more Muslims were followers of Mr. Yahya, and fewer were aiming weapons at my countrymen and women.

It is important to point out that the belief that the Dajjal will appear on earth shortly before Judgment Day is part of Islamic dogma. Every faithful Muslim must believe it in some interpretation.

One crucial matter of interpretation is whether a Muslim believes that the End Times are coming soon, or whether they will come in the far-off, distant future.

Personally, I would prefer that people just project it into that distant future. But if a Muslim is going to believe that the End Times are coming soon, I'd rather he adopt some non-violent, anti-terrorist interpretation of the hadith, such as Mr. Yahya has developed.

[Dajjal]

Muslim End-Times ping

[Darksheare]

You were here earlier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1551582/posts

Islamic Dragger
http://www.freerepublic.com/~islamicdragger/

[Dajjal]

I do not consider this article to have been previously posted because the title is incorrect, the bibliographic info is lacking, and the poster got zotted pretty badly by my fellow Freepers. Too bad, imho.

[Hank Rearden]

Does it really take that many words to remind us that Moos suck?

[Cacique]

read later

[Pro-Bush]

....Bunch of nonsense.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

read later

[snarks_when_bored]

Will there never be an end to the spinning out of fantasies of this sort?

I guess not.

[LibWhacker]

No one gives a flying fig what a bunch of 7th Century cavemen believe.

[sumocide]

Fine, but how is this "News2?

[BlackVeil]

The Messiah Dajjal Wants Chaos in the Middle East…

Sigh ... He is getting his way, then, isn't he?

[dljordan]

That was very interesting. thanks.

[Teletubbed]

DOES ANYONE OWE EBOOKS BY THAT RETARD (Harun Yahya)?

Besides a collection of useful documentaries (by Dennis Prager, Pierre Rehov, David Aaaronovitch etc.) I am making a collection of anti-Zionist "average-Ali" knowledge by downloading "documentaries" and ebooks by Harun Yahya in order to give all this stuff to a Berlin school.

But I am still missing one of Harun Yahya's works about Holocaust denial, called "Holocaust Violence".

All the links I searched are dead (I tried also Google's cache and archive.org aka waybackmachine).

So, if anyone should owe the ebook "Holocaust Violence", please send it to:

www.mediafront.blogspot.com@gmail.com

You can also send entire movies similar to those by Dennis Prager, Pierre Rehov, David Aaaronovitch, etc.

Thanks



Image taken from
http://www.harunyahya.net/V2/Lang/tr/Pg/WorkDetail/Number/250

[AdmSmith]

It is important to point out that the belief that the Dajjal will appear on earth shortly before Judgment Day is part of Islamic dogma. Every faithful Muslim must believe it in some interpretation.
and
Simply laughing at Muslim end-time beliefs may be okay for an individual American, but would truly be a mistake for American foreign policy.

I agree, and since there are always mentally disturbed persons in all societies, we will have a problem if such person has wealth or power and is charismatic, or is a psychopath. http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p960239.html The followers of such persons are often personally weak, authoritarian, has had personal losses, or are mentally disturbed. If such cult has a religious origin with an expected "chosen one" in their common belief, as is the case for Islam, we will always have problem.

We just have to hope that the most common brands of Islam will denounce this kind of thinking in a reformation of Islam. But, I do not really have hope for the Wahhabis in Saudi and the Deobandis in some parts of Pakistan to change. This implies that we have to prevent them from financing Muslim groups around the Globe.

It is not easy for a non-Muslim to discriminate between the common End Times beliefs and a malign version:

According to a report prepared by the Punjab Police Department and quoted in The News, as many as 200,246 students are enrolled in seminaries representing the Deoband school of thought, while 199,733 students are associated with seminaries belonging to the Barelvi school of thought in the Punjab province. While 34,253 students are affiliated with the seminaries representing the Ahl-e-Hadith school of thought, 7,333 students are getting education from the seminaries of Ahl-e-Tashi school of thought. The classified report showing the situation till September 2005 states that a total of 441,565 students are getting education in Madrassas (seminaries) across the Punjab province. Jang, January 2, 2006.

Question: Find the terrorists among these 441,565!

[Smokin' Joe]

If I am correct, the Dajjal is the Muslim equivalent of the AntiChrist. Certainly, descriptions of widespread deceit, persecution of the faithful, calling down signs from the heavens, even, parallel the description of the Antichrist in the Gospels.

A question.

If the Dajjal is the deceiver, the servant of evil, why have you chosen that for your screen name? Is this peace filled post more deceit?

Whom do you serve?

[airborne]

The Dajjal seeks to lead a number of Christian groups in the direction of confusion by making them believe that a number of preconditions need to be met if Prophet 'Isa (as) is to return to earth. The fact is, however, that there is no confusion here at all. Dajjalism is the absence of belief in Allah.

The presence of belief in Allah is Messiahhood. The coming of Prophet 'Isa (as) is a miracle from Allah.

So, if I don't believe in Allah, I'm in league with Dajjal (the AntiChrist)?

[nuconvert]

Are you familiar with Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi and the Hojatieh cult? This is the man whom Ahmadinejad is following.
Makes you understand why the anti-U.S., anti-Israel, anti-Europe rhetoric has increased so much, and why he seems to want to provoke an attack.
That being said about Ahmadinejad, I'm not quite sure why Khamenei is allowing it to go this far, unless he feels he can reign in Ahmadinejad before the bombs actually start heading toward Iran.

[The Drowning Witch]

weird ping. read the whole thing...it's not what you think.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It should be noted that a spokesman for Harun Yahya (and BAV, of course) was hired by the Kansas Conservatives to speak at textbook hearings. These two groups have been allies for some time.

[Rocky]

So, if Dajjal is the Moslem form of an anti-Christ, why do you use Dajjal as your name on FR?