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Revote today [Dover, PA school board]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 January 2006 | TOM JOYCE

Posted on 01/03/2006 12:12:37 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Also today, Dover's board might revoke the controversial intelligent design decision.

Now that the issue of teaching "intelligent design" in Dover schools appears to be played out, the doings of the Dover Area School Board might hold little interest for the rest of the world.

But the people who happen to live in that district find them to be of great consequence. Or so board member James Cashman is finding in his final days of campaigning before Tuesday's special election, during which he will try to retain his seat on the board.

Even though the issue that put the Dover Area School District in the international spotlight is off the table, Cashman found that most of the people who are eligible to vote in the election still intend to vote. And it pleases him to see that they're interested enough in their community to do so, he said.

"People want some finality to this," Cashman said.

Cashman will be running against challenger Bryan Rehm, who originally appeared to have won on Nov. 8. But a judge subsequently ruled that a malfunctioning election machine in one location obliges the school district to do the election over in that particular voting precinct.

Only people who voted at the Friendship Community Church in Dover Township in November are eligible to vote there today.

Rehm didn't return phone calls for comment.

But Bernadette Reinking, the new school board president, said she did some campaigning with Rehm recently. The people who voted originally told her that they intend to do so again, she said. And they don't seem to be interested in talking about issues, she said. Reinking said it's because they already voted once, already know where the candidates stand and already have their minds made up.

Like Cashman, she said she was pleased to see how serious they are about civic participation.

Another event significant to the district is likely to take place today, Reinking said. Although she hadn't yet seen a copy of the school board meeting's agenda, she said that she and her fellow members might officially vote to remove the mention of intelligent design from the school district's science curriculum.

Intelligent design is the idea that life is too complex for random evolution and must have a creator. Supporters of the idea, such as the Discovery Institute in Seattle, insist that it's a legitimate scientific theory.

Opponents argue that it's a pseudo-science designed solely to get around a 1987 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that biblical creationism can't be taught in public schools.

In October 2004, the Dover Area School District became the first in the country to include intelligent design in science class. Board members voted to require ninth-grade biology students to hear a four-paragraph statement about intelligent design.

That decision led 11 district parents to file a lawsuit trying to get the mention of intelligent design removed from the science classroom. U.S. Middle District Court Judge John E. Jones III issued a ruling earlier this month siding with the plaintiffs. [Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al..]

While the district was awaiting Jones' decision, the school board election took place at the beginning of November, pitting eight incumbents against a group of eight candidates opposed to the mention of intelligent design in science class.

At first, every challenger appeared to have won. But Cashman filed a complaint about a voting machine that tallied between 96 to 121 votes for all of the other candidates but registered only one vote for him.

If he does end up winning, Cashman said, he's looking forward to doing what he had in mind when he originally ran for school board - looking out for students. And though they might be of no interest to news consumers in other states and countries, Cashman said, the district has plenty of other issues to face besides intelligent design. Among them are scholastic scores and improving the curriculum for younger grades.

And though he would share the duties with former opponents, he said, he is certain they would be able to work together.

"I believe deep down inside, we all have the interest and goal to benefit the kids," he said.

Regardless of the turnout of today's election, Reinking said, new board members have their work cut out for them. It's unusual for a board to have so many new members starting at the same time, she said.

"We can get to all those things that school boards usually do," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bow2thestate; commonsenseprevails; creationisminadress; creationisthisseyfit; crevolist; dover; downwithgod; elitism; fundiemeltdown; goddooditamen; godlesslefties; nogod4du; victory4thelefties; weknowbest4you
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the info - very interesting article.


441 posted on 01/04/2006 9:27:31 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: JamesP81; Dimensio
The FR member you're calling "Troll" is 3 years your senior around here.
Perchance you don't know what is a "troll?"
442 posted on 01/04/2006 9:30:02 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: betty boop
You are making an unwarranted assumption that that is how I approach questions of truth with regard to the natural world. And you would be mistaken, my friend.

Indeed, that is not the way you approach such questions!
443 posted on 01/04/2006 9:30:52 AM PST by Alamo-Girl (Monthly is the best way to donate to Free Republic!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"The effects of gravity can be observed, and have been, repeatedly."

Very well then. So can "the effects of God."

No they can't.

Provide proof that doesn't require a belief in God.

444 posted on 01/04/2006 9:32:49 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: doc30

Another service of Darwin Central.


445 posted on 01/04/2006 9:33:32 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Opus takes on intelligent design.
446 posted on 01/04/2006 9:39:02 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: PatrickHenry; doc30

Also look at my links from post 286

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1551240/posts?page=286#286


447 posted on 01/04/2006 9:44:21 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: highball
Provide proof that doesn't require a belief in God.

Have you forgotten? You can't prove a negative.

448 posted on 01/04/2006 9:45:17 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: tortoise

Thanks! :-)


449 posted on 01/04/2006 9:48:45 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: joesbucks; betty boop; xzins
Thank you for sharing your views and your concerns!

Truly this particular case was more about the supporters of the intelligent design movement than the movement itself much less the intelligent design hypothesis.

Correlation is not causation.

The appearance of storks and babies at the same time does not mean there is a causal relationship.

Likewise, that most all atheists are evolutionist does not mean that there is a causal relationship between the two or that evolution should not be taught because it would establish atheism as the state religion.

And likewise, the intelligent design hypothesis must stand or fall on its own merits - regardless of who is supporting it or is against it and their motives or behavior.

My two cents...

450 posted on 01/04/2006 9:49:52 AM PST by Alamo-Girl (Monthly is the best way to donate to Free Republic!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

You admit, then, that you cannot provide objective evidence for "the effects of God"?


451 posted on 01/04/2006 9:50:28 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: RadioAstronomer

So would a high school science teacher be doing his career a favor if he introduced his class to the scientific evidence for gender differences in spatial ability? Would any public school teacher in America dare such a thing?

All many of us have ever asked is that our opinion be considered. That opinion being that perhaps there is a God who's the author of all that we see. We haven't demanded the censorship of anything. Yet, feminists and other PC groups can demand outright censorship of scientific data, and the heroic evo-warriors who bask in the glow of media adoration for battling "fundies" tuck their tail between their legs and run for cover when a media-approved group wants to politicize science.


452 posted on 01/04/2006 9:57:42 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: highball

Objective evidence, yes. Conclusive proof, no.


453 posted on 01/04/2006 9:59:19 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: puroresu
All many of us have ever asked is that our opinion be considered.

When your "opinion" can be expressed in scientific terms, it should absolutely be considered. Until then, you're asking for special treatment for your opinion and your opinion alone.

454 posted on 01/04/2006 10:00:02 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Objective evidence, yes. Conclusive proof, no.

So why all the smokescreen? Where's the objective evidence that doesn't require proof in God?

455 posted on 01/04/2006 10:00:40 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Apologies. That should be "Where's the objective evidence that doesn't require belief in God?"

Need more coffee.

456 posted on 01/04/2006 10:01:26 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball

Can you provide objective evidence that matter is not organized and does not behave according to predictable laws?


457 posted on 01/04/2006 10:02:59 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

There you go again....

You make specific claims, then when pressed for support, you ask someone else to prove that your claims are not true.


458 posted on 01/04/2006 10:05:31 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball

As far as I know, objective evidence is free to be interpreted with or without the "requirement" of God.


459 posted on 01/04/2006 10:08:34 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: highball

I wasn't asking for proof. I was asking for objective evidence. The two are not synonymous.


460 posted on 01/04/2006 10:09:30 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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