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Vatican Says Jerusalem "Issue" is Too Important to Leave to Israel, PA
www.arutzsheva.net ^ | 19:15 Jan 03, '06 / 3 Tevet 5766

Posted on 01/03/2006 9:34:40 AM PST by Esther Ruth

Vatican Says Jerusalem "Issue" is Too Important to Leave to Israel, PA 19:15 Jan 03, '06 / 3 Tevet 5766

(IsraelNN.com) The legal counsel of the Vatican in Israel, the priest David Jaeger, said today that Jerusalem is too important of an "issue" to be left to Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Jaeger further expressed criticism of Israeli policy regarding holy sites in the country.

"The issue of Jerusalem," the representative of the Roman Catholic Church said, "is to important to leave in the hands of the Israelis and the Palestinians."

The Catholic Church has been making efforts to obtain historical sites in Jerusalem of late, but without public successes.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: busybodyromans; important; israel; israelisovereignty; issue; jerusalem; pa; sovereignty; vatican
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To: Iscool

That citation should be Matthew 16: 17-19


41 posted on 01/03/2006 10:38:53 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: pgkdan

The jerusalem Church led by Jesus's brother James preceded the RCC


42 posted on 01/03/2006 10:40:54 AM PST by avile
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To: Esther Ruth
Deus vult!
43 posted on 01/03/2006 10:41:28 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Santorum.)
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To: bibarnes
Let us take an example from The Most High and stop putting so much importance on a place and more importance on Him who created all places.

You are correct...He is not on the cross...He is risen...He can not be sacrificed again...

And although He has everything under His control, on can not help but want to side with His chosen in protecting their land that He gave them...We of the adoption do not want to usurp the physical inheritance...As we know, our Jerusalem will be in heaven...

44 posted on 01/03/2006 10:42:52 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Right - so every religion in the world can go to the old Temple site execpt the Jews who owned it in the first place ....


45 posted on 01/03/2006 10:42:57 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: pgkdan

"The Roman Catholic Church was established on earth by Jesus Christ and that's that."


Not exactly. Jesus established the first Christian 'church' (faith) but not until 313 AD, when Emperor Constantine embraced Christianity did any early Christian faith become "Roman".


46 posted on 01/03/2006 10:45:34 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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To: avile
The jerusalem Church led by Jesus's brother James preceded the RCC

LOL! The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church was founded in Jerusalem by the Apostles, who received the Holy Ghost. The Twelve went throughout the known world at that time. Peter went to Rome, to minister to the Christians who were already there. All of the churches founded by the Apostles are part of the same Church. The term "Roman Catholic" isn't the Church's official name.

47 posted on 01/03/2006 10:46:43 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Blzbba

See my #47.


48 posted on 01/03/2006 10:47:16 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480
That citation should be Matthew 16: 17-19

That's really stretching it...

49 posted on 01/03/2006 10:47:22 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: bibarnes

Sorry, but it does matter. There is a tendency to turn Jesus into a "spirit," forgetting that he is a man, and moreover a Jew of a particular time and place. HERE he entered history and he has never left.


50 posted on 01/03/2006 10:47:36 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Blzbba

That's a typical Protestant cop-out.

And it goes back to the heresy that Luther proposed. Here's a question, if the Catholic Church is not the original church, then why is it that the first Pope is Peter, and why is it that after him we have this amazing continous line of popes up until the present time.


51 posted on 01/03/2006 10:48:01 AM PST by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: RoadTest
Succession would be the passing away Pope laying his hands on or otherwise selecting and/or annointing a successor.

That's too literal. All Catholic bishops (the Pope being the highest ranked) received this laying on of hands when they became bishops. Three different bishops lay their hands on the new bishop, show apostolic sucession is ensured.

52 posted on 01/03/2006 10:49:11 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: avile

Jesus did not have a brother. It is true there are some references to "brothers" in the Bible, but what is meant by that is that these were Jesus's cousins, something lost in the English translation. It was not possible for Jesus to have brothers because Mary remained forever virgin.


53 posted on 01/03/2006 10:49:37 AM PST by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: Esther Ruth
I think all the Christian denomination in the end are going to ALL in ERROR come up against Israel in one way or another, outright, for all to see, or secretly - many ways.

I repectfully disagree, to a degree...I've been in many small independant churches that will not fold...Of course they have no ties to any Church Councils, Ecumenical movements or the 'Church'...They will (and do) meet and worship in houses if they have to...

54 posted on 01/03/2006 10:51:32 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
It was not possible for Jesus to have brothers because Mary remained forever virgin.

Which is a view held not just by Catholics but by most Eastern Orthodox.

55 posted on 01/03/2006 10:51:36 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: pgkdan
Says Who? The Christian Holy Sites in and around Jerusalem were established, built and maintained for nearly 2 millenia by the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches. We had over 1100 years of guarding these holy sites before there ever was a Christian Church apart from Rome and Constantinople.

I sympathizes with the Catholic Church - this is a very difficult issue. The numbers of Christians in the PA area continues to dwindle. Maintaining the holy sites depends increasingly on the goodwill of local muslims. The Church wants to find a way to keep Muslims from persecuting the ever-smaller numbers of Christians. In the end, I'm afraid the holy sites will be nothing more than museums.

56 posted on 01/03/2006 10:53:41 AM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: sheik yerbouty

A very long post from you :)


57 posted on 01/03/2006 10:54:49 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: Pyro7480

BTW, "Catholic" means "Universal" and was the name chosen for the official Church of the Universal Empire of Rome. It is just the name, not the substance.
And there is a clear sucession from the Cross at the Golgota, the martyrs of the reigns of Nero, Decius, Diocletian/Galerius, the Church established by the councils in the fourth century


58 posted on 01/03/2006 10:56:32 AM PST by gaslucas1
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To: AzaleaCity5691

"That's a typical Protestant cop-out. "


As a batpized, confirmed Catholic, I'm highly amused by that.


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And it goes back to the heresy that Luther proposed. Here's a question, if the Catholic Church is not the original church, then why is it that the first Pope is Peter, and why is it that after him we have this amazing continous line of popes up until the present time."


I did NOT say that Catholicism isn't the 'original' church. I said that "Roman Catholicism" isn't the original church, simply because, until 313 AD, the Romans were KILLING CHRISTIANS. eaten by Lions, Tigers, and Bears, oh my. Not until Constantine's conversion could the church possibly be considered "Roman", as to be anything other than a idol-worshipping/emperor-worshipping Roman citizen was punishable by death.

The original Christian church was Catholic. It just wasn't ROMAN Catholic. Read this last sentence slowly.


59 posted on 01/03/2006 10:57:34 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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To: Iscool
There is zero biblical evidence of such nonsense...

Acts 1:23 So they put forward two men, Joseph called Barsabbas (who was also called Justus), and Matthias.

24And they prayed and said, "You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen

25to occupy this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place."

26And they drew lots for them, and the lot fell to Matthias; and he was added to the eleven apostles.

This all sounds strangely familiar...

60 posted on 01/03/2006 11:01:30 AM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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