Posted on 12/28/2005 12:55:26 PM PST by balch3
Two of the most powerful moments of political déjà vu I have ever experienced took place recently in the context of the Bush administration's defense of presidentially ordered electronic spying on American citizens.
First, in the best tradition of former President Bill Clinton's classic, "it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-is-is" defense, President Bush responded to a question at a White House news conference about what now appears to be a clear violation of federal electronic monitoring laws by trying to argue that he had not ordered the National Security Agency to "monitor" phone and e-mail communications of American citizens without court order; he had merely ordered them to "detect" improper communications
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Barr prostituted himself to the ACLU. He carries their anti-American venom for pay.
The Constitution gave him the right...
it is the way that Congress and judges screw around with the Constitution that is the problem...
Besides, NONE of these people deserve the "due process" you refer to...unless they named the latest military weapon the DUE PROCESS!!
And smack the ACLU right on their lips.
Bob Barr is WRONG and the Constitution and Due Process is what the President has on his side.
"I don't know what's gotten into Bob Barr."
Both Bob Barr and Newt Gingrich, also from Cobb county, have a history of being more concerned about privacy than most other politicians... in general it's one of the reasons I like both of them.
Actually I think it's against the law to monitor cell conversations, and I may be mistaken, but I don't believe Radio Shack sells scanners that are capable of monitoring cell frequency's any longer.
Bob Barr is dead wrong. This is war, not a criminal investigation. Big difference.
The President stands on firm legal ground, just as Lincoln did when he suspended habeas corpus, an action that many decried as illegal yet is clearly declared in the Constitution.
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Tell that also to bob barr's current employer, the ACLU.BTW, they(ACLU) would laugh at you over their apertif's and canape's being served in nancy pelosi's office.
Somehow I don't feel much safer knowing Bob Barr and his cohorts at the ACLU are fighting for my civil rights and against terrorism at the same time.
Bob Barr showed to be the statist phony he is when he refused to allow a marijuana initiate to even be placed on the ballot in DC. So much for self-government.
Wrong about what? Did you read the article? He says the monitoring appears to violate electronic surveilance law. Do you know for a fact that that's wrong? Other than that, he's simply saying the president is not being honest about what they are doing. If he's got the Constitution on his side, why lie about it?
Wrong about what? What did he say in the article that's wrong?
Yeah, why not just find a winning team and be on it. Never mind what they actually do, as long as you can feel like a winner.
"How can someone be a member of a party that can never win anything? This is an indication of your low political IQ."
What a great little Bolshevik you'd make.
this: "about what now appears to be a clear violation of federal electronic monitoring laws"
It's not this president that I'm worried about tho, imagine President Hillary Clinton with these powers. Forget FBI files and getting the IRS on their enemies, just listen to phone calls.
Under this law, his War Powers are ham-strung and the law should not be in place as it is unless we want a FISA court limiting the President's ability to defend against foreign powers.
He issued a EO that violated the structure set up by the law in order to carry out his clearly defined Constitutional responsibilities.
Should he have fought a court battle, of some years length, against a law so structured? [The question isn't to you Huck...just rhetorical]
Yes he is; but, you won't get any mindless party groupies to agree with you. Their adopted political dogma is rooted mainly in emotional hyperbole.
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