Posted on 12/27/2005 7:23:57 PM PST by ThePythonicCow
WASHINGTON, Dec. 27 - Defense lawyers in some of the country's biggest terrorism cases say they plan to bring legal challenges to determine whether the National Security Agency used illegal wiretaps against several dozen Muslim men tied to Al Qaeda.
The lawyers said in interviews that they wanted to learn whether the men were monitored by the agency and, if so, whether the government withheld critical information or misled judges and defense lawyers about how and why the men were singled out.
The expected legal challenges, in cases from Florida, Ohio, Oregon and Virginia, add another dimension to the growing controversy over the agency's domestic surveillance program and could jeopardize some of the Bush administration's most important courtroom victories in terror cases, legal analysts say.
The question of whether the N.S.A. program was used in criminal prosecutions and whether it improperly influenced them raises "fascinating and difficult questions," said Carl W. Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond who has studied terrorism prosecutions.
"It seems to me that it would be relevant to a person's case," Professor Tobias said. "I would expect the government to say that it is highly sensitive material, but we have legal mechanisms to balance the national security needs with the rights of defendants. I think judges are very conscientious about trying to sort out these issues and balance civil liberties and national security."
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Now these same DEMOCRATS don't want the AMERICAN PEOPLE to see the report proving the CLINTONS NOT ONLY SPIED ON AMERICAN CITIZENS BUT HAD THEM AUDITED!!! WHY NOT?!!!
HELLO, NYT, where is your 'reporting' on this?!
The left is still screaming about the "leak" of the name of some office slut who happened to be milking the taxpayers at her CIA "job", but they say nothing about the daily leaks of actual operational secrets. They are traitors. They are working for the enemy.
Who is the NYT largest advertiser?
Who are the top 5?
Top 50? Is this public information, and legal to "leak"?
Believe it or not, I think this is good for our side.
Up to now, the MSM have been portraying this as a story about warrantless searches of US citizens. Now the public will get to see who these searches really targetted.
FWIW, I do not believe it is the wire taps in and of themselves that are causing the Dems and the MSM heartburn. It is programs like Able Danger that can take this data and sift through the degrees of separation that isolate the bad guys from MSM types, Democrats or their supporters. The translation of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Defense Ministry document most certainly has identified more US and European contacts that can be matrixed into existing open source programs. More Democrat/MSM heartburn.
Couple this with the OFF revelations and you have the makings of a Democrat scandal of epic proportions.
Great point but our side understands already who is being targeted it's the left and their unreachable hatred cluttering anything logical.
"wiretaps against several dozen Muslim men tied to Al Qaeda."
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Let's protect the rights of the terrorists and the h&^#$ with the lives of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of innocent American citizens. The people in official positions who leaked the information to the press AND the NYT who published it should all be tried for treason.
NYT's advertisers
Brooks Brothers
E-Trade Financial
Vonage Phone Co.
Dell
Radio Shack
Citibank
Neiman Marcus
just to start
Leave it to the Leftists to continue to undermine our national security. Of course, after the next major attack, these puslianimouus weasels will be carping on the Bush administration with the full volume of their light weights.
I agree that our side already understands it but now it will become more difficult for the MSM to hide the truth from the general public. If I were a Democratic Party strategist, I would not be happy about these Islamic defendants getting publicity. It was better for them when they were just faceless "Americans."
Whoops!!!! You're previous post is gone!! I don't think I did that all by myself. If you're a Conservative then God bless you. And we're not loosing the war of words and thoughts. We have the House, Senate, and the Presidency! So cheer up! Troll.
kcvl posted:
NYT's advertisers
Brooks Brothers
E-Trade Financial
Vonage Phone Co.
Dell
Radio Shack
Citibank
Neiman Marcus
just to start
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http://www.brooksbrothers.com/
https://www.etrade.com/global.html
http://www.vonage.com/
http://www.dell.com/
http://www.radioshack.com/
http://www.citibank.com/us/
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/
Can one of you post your list with live links as a General Chat/Vanity thread. Will get more hits that way. Great work here!
Hey Peach, eeevil and Justa help me spread this around? Need to start hitting the NY Time Advertisers with THOUSANDS of letter.
kcvl posted:
NYT's advertisers
Brooks Brothers
E-Trade Financial
Vonage Phone Co.
Dell
Radio Shack
Citibank
Neiman Marcus
just to start
-
http://www.brooksbrothers.com/
https://www.etrade.com/global.html
http://www.vonage.com/
http://www.dell.com/
http://www.radioshack.com/
http://www.citibank.com/us/
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/
54 posted on 12/27/2005 8:38:24 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
So from my obviously angry post at that story you actually think I am a democratic troll, HMMMM guess you are'nt that intelligent after all. Yea, I know we have the house,senate and Presidency but just like me alot of Conservatives are just as angry that it sure doesn't seem like it because of the lack of ever fighting back until recently starting with the Harriet Myers nomination. Go find someone else to target your troll BS with. I am as American and conservative as they come and care deeply about my country and what the scum on the left are doing to it.
Thanks for your help!
Thanks!
You're welcome.
It's so infuriating. It really is.
Thanks for the links. Am firing up letters as we speak. Also don't forget to sign the petition (see tagline for link) calling for an investigation into WHO is doing the leaking. We only have 54 signatures on the petition which doesn't speak very highly of where conservatives stand on this matter...
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