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ILLEGAL-ALIEN BABY BATTLE (14th amendment not intended to grant illegals' offspring citizenship)
NY POST ^ | 12/27/05 | AP

Posted on 12/27/2005 4:32:37 AM PST by Liz

A proposal to deny citizenship to babies born to illegal immigrants on U.S. soil ran aground this month in Congress, but it is sure to resurface.............

At issue is "birthright citizenship," provided for since the Constitution's 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868.

Some conservatives in Congress say the amendment was never intended to grant citizenship automatically to babies of illegal immigrants.

...........a revocation of birthright citizenship in an immigration bill passed by the House in mid-December.

GOP House leaders did not let the proposal come to a vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; aliens; anchorbabies; illegals; immigrantlist
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To: Fawn

"Jeez----impeachment? That's a bit much...this President is already doing his job times ten and the work that should of been done before him."

I agree, but there is more he could and should be doing. If he would just stand up and say "Enforce the Law", and tell Chertoff to do his job, we could solve this problem.


21 posted on 12/27/2005 3:03:51 PM PST by SC33
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To: Fawn
"...this President is already doing his job..."

ya think?
satisfied with the 'open' mexican border?

22 posted on 12/28/2005 4:31:59 AM PST by 1234 (Border control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: Liz
According to Visa International--which is now clamoring for a share of the transfer fees--American money sent South of the Border by illegals constitutes $38 BILLION this year alone constituting Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

Secretary Snow and The Wall -- Earlier this month, U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow paid a friendly visit to Mexico. He met with his Mexican counterpart, Secretary of Hacienda Francisco Gil Díaz.

Snow and Gil Díaz talked about the importance to Mexico of the earnings remitted to  home communities  and families by migrants in the United States. The two secretaries announced that they had reinforced their commitment to reduce the costs and to facilitate the sending of those family remittances.

Snow said that success hinged on the introduction of private competition to the remittance market, which had reduced the cost of sending money from the U.S. to Mexico by two-thirds since 1999.

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This unmitigated contempt for America, and working-class, tax-paying Americans, cannot go unchallenged.

Our government doesn't really give a sh__.

23 posted on 12/28/2005 4:57:22 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: gubamyster

ping


24 posted on 12/28/2005 5:09:22 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Liz
I did not grow up close to the border, but in West Texas. My father was a doctor with his own hospital. He complained more than once about watching a car drive around the block numerous times, until it would pull in to the ambulance drive, just in time for the mother to have the baby.

He knew he would see little, if any, money for this delivery. This complaint from a man who would forgive any payment, or take rabbits, etc., or other type of barter for pay.

25 posted on 12/28/2005 5:12:20 AM PST by mathluv
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To: 1234

The man has alot on his plate the last few years.....hopefully he will get to this border problem in the next few.


26 posted on 12/28/2005 5:16:37 AM PST by Fawn (I got my 'Bo Bice' CD...I'm all set for the Holidays.)
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To: mathluv; Fawn; ikka; jv1; Nalu; spectre; DumpsterDiver; Libloather; nmh; BraveMan; Sam's Army; ...
Posted by mathluv: My father was a doctor with his own hospital. He complained more than once about watching a car drive around the block numerous times, until it would pull in to the ambulance drive, just in time for the mother to have the baby. He knew he would see little, if any, money for this delivery. This complaint from a man who would forgive any payment, or take rabbits, etc., or other type of barter for pay.

Thanks for the realtime affirmation.

God knows how many times the illegals pulled off this scam, while the US taxpayer keeps paying and paying and paying.

The sense of entitlement these people have is outrageous-----that the rest of us owe them a living.

And that professionals, like mathluv's father, and the US government, exist for their convenience.

27 posted on 12/28/2005 9:07:56 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
One sad part of this is that my father died in 1970. This memory is from the 50's.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

28 posted on 12/28/2005 9:20:23 AM PST by mathluv
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To: mathluv

1950's? That does throw a whole new perspective on the problem.


29 posted on 12/28/2005 9:37:26 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

It's going to take a few more terrorist attacks on WASHINGTON DC and a lot more American deaths to get the Congress to enforce borders and refuse citizenship to illegal babies.


30 posted on 12/28/2005 9:39:03 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Liz

The language of the 14th seems plain enough.


31 posted on 12/28/2005 9:42:01 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Bear_Slayer
WIll we then be working on legislation that shuts the door on Cuba citizens, that gain US citizenship if they can touch foot on US soil.

Sure, just as soon as we outlaw trade with Communist China.

32 posted on 12/28/2005 9:46:38 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Liz
It is not new. There is just a much larger number now, and more reason to be concerned afterr 9/11.

Anchor babies have always been desired.

33 posted on 12/28/2005 9:49:25 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I'm afraid you are all too correct.


34 posted on 12/28/2005 9:54:49 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Wolfie

The only thing between us and camouflage-clad generalissimos patrolling our streets with shoulder holsters...............a Constitution.


35 posted on 12/28/2005 9:58:33 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
What we need to do is bring this issue back to the front of the debate. The 14th amendment does not grant citizenship to children of illegals!

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

These illegals are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" therefore they and their children are not citizens. We need to find a way to get this to the Supreme Court and stop creating anchor babies. They are not citizens!!!
36 posted on 09/12/2006 5:40:26 AM PDT by upier ("Usted no es agradable en América" "Ahora deporte Illegals")
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To: upier; sheana; panthermom; ovrtaxt
What we need to do is bring this issue back to the front of the debate. The 14th amendment does not grant citizenship to children of illegals! All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. These illegals are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" therefore they and their children are not citizens. We need to find a way to get this to the Supreme Court and stop creating anchor babies. They are not citizens!!!

And when those "anchor babies" start voting---watch out.

FReeper ovrtavt said it best:

1 end the anchor baby policy
2 end welfare benefits for non-citizens
3 end subsidized health care and public education for non-citizens
4 swift and harsh jailtime for employers of illegals, plus seizure of assets
5 build a 1951 mile wall from the Pacific to the Gulf
6 allow non-citizens to cross into Mexico with impunity
7 Pass the FairTax
8 overthrow the current Mexican regime and install a non-corrupt, capitalistic government.

37 posted on 09/12/2006 7:51:21 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Liz

Did you know that California has its own state-funded SSI/SSP program for illegal aliens? Reform needs to start at the local level and work its way up. That is the only way it will work.

http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/CDSSWEB/CashAssist_2257.htm


38 posted on 09/12/2006 8:10:04 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Liz
Thanks for the compliment!
39 posted on 09/13/2006 2:50:41 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (We gotta watch out for the Hellbazoo and the Hamas...)
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To: ovrtaxt

My pleasure---yours is one of the best posts on the subject.


40 posted on 09/13/2006 7:30:41 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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