ILLEGAL-ALIEN BABY BATTLE (14th amendment not intended to grant illegals' offspring citizenship)

NY POST ^ | 12/27/05 | AP

[Liz]

A proposal to deny citizenship to babies born to illegal immigrants on U.S. soil ran aground this month in Congress, but it is sure to resurface.............

At issue is "birthright citizenship," provided for since the Constitution's 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868.

Some conservatives in Congress say the amendment was never intended to grant citizenship automatically to babies of illegal immigrants.

...........a revocation of birthright citizenship in an immigration bill passed by the House in mid-December.

GOP House leaders did not let the proposal come to a vote.

[SC33]

"Jeez----impeachment? That's a bit much...this President is already doing his job times ten and the work that should of been done before him."

I agree, but there is more he could and should be doing. If he would just stand up and say "Enforce the Law", and tell Chertoff to do his job, we could solve this problem.

[1234]

"...this President is already doing his job..."

ya think?
satisfied with the 'open' mexican border?

[DumpsterDiver]

According to Visa International--which is now clamoring for a share of the transfer fees--American money sent South of the Border by illegals constitutes $38 BILLION this year alone constituting Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

Secretary Snow and The Wall -- Earlier this month, U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow paid a friendly visit to Mexico. He met with his Mexican counterpart, Secretary of Hacienda Francisco Gil Díaz.

Snow and Gil Díaz talked about the importance to Mexico of the earnings remitted to  home communities  and families by migrants in the United States. The two secretaries announced that they had reinforced their commitment to reduce the costs and to facilitate the sending of those family remittances.

Snow said that success hinged on the introduction of private competition to the remittance market, which had reduced the cost of sending money from the U.S. to Mexico by two-thirds since 1999.

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This unmitigated contempt for America, and working-class, tax-paying Americans, cannot go unchallenged.

Our government doesn't really give a sh__.

[DumpsterDiver]

ping

[mathluv]

I did not grow up close to the border, but in West Texas. My father was a doctor with his own hospital. He complained more than once about watching a car drive around the block numerous times, until it would pull in to the ambulance drive, just in time for the mother to have the baby.

He knew he would see little, if any, money for this delivery. This complaint from a man who would forgive any payment, or take rabbits, etc., or other type of barter for pay.

[Fawn]

The man has alot on his plate the last few years.....hopefully he will get to this border problem in the next few.

[Liz]

Posted by mathluv: My father was a doctor with his own hospital. He complained more than once about watching a car drive around the block numerous times, until it would pull in to the ambulance drive, just in time for the mother to have the baby. He knew he would see little, if any, money for this delivery. This complaint from a man who would forgive any payment, or take rabbits, etc., or other type of barter for pay.

Thanks for the realtime affirmation.

God knows how many times the illegals pulled off this scam, while the US taxpayer keeps paying and paying and paying.

The sense of entitlement these people have is outrageous-----that the rest of us owe them a living.

And that professionals, like mathluv's father, and the US government, exist for their convenience.

[mathluv]

One sad part of this is that my father died in 1970. This memory is from the 50's.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Liz]

1950's? That does throw a whole new perspective on the problem.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

It's going to take a few more terrorist attacks on WASHINGTON DC and a lot more American deaths to get the Congress to enforce borders and refuse citizenship to illegal babies.

[Wolfie]

The language of the 14th seems plain enough.

[Wolfie]

WIll we then be working on legislation that shuts the door on Cuba citizens, that gain US citizenship if they can touch foot on US soil.

Sure, just as soon as we outlaw trade with Communist China.

[mathluv]

It is not new. There is just a much larger number now, and more reason to be concerned afterr 9/11.

Anchor babies have always been desired.

[Liz]

I'm afraid you are all too correct.

[Liz]

The only thing between us and camouflage-clad generalissimos patrolling our streets with shoulder holsters...............a Constitution.

[upier]

What we need to do is bring this issue back to the front of the debate. The 14th amendment does not grant citizenship to children of illegals!

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

These illegals are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" therefore they and their children are not citizens. We need to find a way to get this to the Supreme Court and stop creating anchor babies. They are not citizens!!!

[Liz]

What we need to do is bring this issue back to the front of the debate. The 14th amendment does not grant citizenship to children of illegals! All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. These illegals are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" therefore they and their children are not citizens. We need to find a way to get this to the Supreme Court and stop creating anchor babies. They are not citizens!!!

And when those "anchor babies" start voting---watch out.

FReeper ovrtavt said it best:

1 end the anchor baby policy
2 end welfare benefits for non-citizens
3 end subsidized health care and public education for non-citizens
4 swift and harsh jailtime for employers of illegals, plus seizure of assets
5 build a 1951 mile wall from the Pacific to the Gulf
6 allow non-citizens to cross into Mexico with impunity
7 Pass the FairTax
8 overthrow the current Mexican regime and install a non-corrupt, capitalistic government.

[sheana]

Did you know that California has its own state-funded SSI/SSP program for illegal aliens? Reform needs to start at the local level and work its way up. That is the only way it will work.

http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/CDSSWEB/CashAssist_2257.htm

[ovrtaxt]

Thanks for the compliment!

[Liz]

My pleasure---yours is one of the best posts on the subject.