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If War Was Right, For Who? [Helen Thomas]
boston channel.com ^ | December 23, 2005 | Helen Thomas

Posted on 12/23/2005 6:59:32 PM PST by Roscoe Karns

POSTED: 3:46 pm EST December 23, 2005

President George W. Bush poses a curious contradiction: He admits his decision to attack Iraq was based on faulty intelligence, but he insists that it was the right step to take.

"My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision," he told an audience at the Woodrow Wilson International Center on Dec. 14.

Well, let's think about that: 2,161 Americans killed in action; thousands maimed for life; 30,000 Iraqis, "more or less," as Bush put it, have been killed and thousands more wounded.

Iraqi cities have been battered by U.S. bombing, car bombings, kidnappings and religious strife. Don't forget the billions in U.S. tax dollars spent every month on the war.

Top American officials can only sneak into Iraq, unannounced or undercover and heavily protected in armored vehicles -- not exactly as conquering heroes.

Was this war worth it, and for whom? For the families who will never see their sons and daughters again? For the children who may never climb on their fathers' knees again?

How about the Iraqis who were subjected to a "shock and awe" unprovoked attack that has left parts of their country destroyed and a colonial-style takeover by the U.S.?

Was it worth it for the thousands of anonymous detainees -- neither charged, tried nor convicted -- in U.S.-run prisons in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; Baghdad, and Bagram, Afghanistan, some subjected to torture and some who died in the hands of their captors?

In the same speech last week to the Woodrow Wilson International Center, Bush tried to justify his attack on Iraq because there was a threat which he now admits was based on phony intelligence.

"We removed Saddam Hussein from power because he was a threat to our security, pursued and used weapons of mass destruction," Bush said. "He sponsored terrorists."

But, Bush granted, "much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong."

The president has hesitantly come to grips with a fundamental truth that has been long established by independent commissions and congressional committees.

The president continued: "Yet it was right to remove Saddam Hussein from power."

In his own world, Bush apparently doesn't see any clash between those statements. I'm suffering whiplash.

The truth is Saddam did many terrible things, but he did not sponsor terrorism, much as Bush tries to link him to al-Qaida. He was secular and kept his distance from Osama bin Laden, a religious fanatic.

The president ignores the fact that American and U.N. weapons inspectors never found those weapons of mass destruction, even though U.S. forces have occupied the country for more than two years.

Bush should stop twisting the facts.

Why at this stage do Americans still have to speculate about the real reasons Bush was so eager to go to war against Iraq? His latest explanation is that his grand plan for spreading democracy throughout the Middle East was behind the attack.

The speculation for his reasons to go to war have centered on the U.S. need to secure Iraq's oil -- the second-largest reserves in the Middle East -- the desire to protect Israel from hostile neighbors and the drive to settle a personal vendetta against Saddam, who tried to assassinate his father.

There also is the episode recounted by writer Mickey Herskowitz, who had interviewed then-Gov. Bush extensively for a campaign autobiography he was ghost-writing for Bush. Herskowitz said Bush was thinking of invading Iraq in 1999 and told him that a successful leader needs to be seen as a commander in chief, indicating that presidents need a war to gain political clout.

That's a scary thought.

Back to his Woodrow Wilson comments:

"I know that some of my decisions have led to terrible loss -- and not one of those decisions has been taken lightly," Bush declared. "I know this war is controversial -- yet being your president requires doing what I believe is right and accepting the consequences."

He added he has "never been more certain that America's actions in Iraq are essential to the security of our citizens."

It is good that he has taken the blame, relieving the historians of making that decision -- not that it would have been a tough call for them.

But Bush will never be able to admit that the invasion was a mistake. How could he look into the faces of parents of a killed GI and tell them that their son or daughter died because of his mistake?


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1 posted on 12/23/2005 6:59:32 PM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: Roscoe Karns

Maybe we can stick this walking dead troll in the same hole as Castro when he and her finally drop dead.


2 posted on 12/23/2005 7:03:54 PM PST by NYjarcola
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To: Roscoe Karns

712 words.

Do you think she spent all day writing that? Can she even type that fast?


3 posted on 12/23/2005 7:04:11 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: Roscoe Karns

Please...do....not.....post....hideous .....picture, please. It is too close to Christmas to post pictures of the estrogen deprived grinchwitch.


4 posted on 12/23/2005 7:04:19 PM PST by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

"Bush lieeeeed! Kids dieeeeeed!"

5 posted on 12/23/2005 7:04:39 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Dearest Helen:

STFU!


6 posted on 12/23/2005 7:04:53 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: Roscoe Karns
"...not exactly as conquering heroes"

Because, Helen, no one was sent to "Conquer", they were sent to liberate. And that's what was done. So, Helen, go get that optirectalitis checked out before you get some fecal matter in your eyes.
7 posted on 12/23/2005 7:05:12 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly. Winston Churchill.

8 posted on 12/23/2005 7:05:16 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

"If War Was Right, For Who? [Helen Thomas]"

Shouldn't that be "for whom?"


9 posted on 12/23/2005 7:05:20 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: Gordongekko909

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10 posted on 12/23/2005 7:05:43 PM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: Roscoe Karns

This woman is a total waste of $3 worth of chemicals.


11 posted on 12/23/2005 7:06:13 PM PST by stm
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To: SteveMcKing
Can she even type that fast?

Type? Are you kidding? Helen is still writing with quill feather pens and ink jar.

12 posted on 12/23/2005 7:06:34 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Roscoe Karns
"The speculation for his reasons to go to war have centered on the U.S. need to secure Iraq's oil -- the second-largest reserves in the Middle East -- the desire to protect Israel from hostile neighbors and the drive to settle a personal vendetta against Saddam, who tried to assassinate his father."

And that's why most intelligent people do not make their opinions based on speculation. It kind of makes you look like an idiotic liberal b*#$h.
13 posted on 12/23/2005 7:07:48 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

"There also is the episode recounted by writer Mickey Herskowitz, who had interviewed then-Gov. Bush extensively for a campaign autobiography he was ghost-writing for Bush. Herskowitz said Bush was thinking of invading Iraq in 1999 and told him that a successful leader needs to be seen as a commander in chief, indicating that presidents need a war to gain political clout."

This ought to be checkable...


14 posted on 12/23/2005 7:08:30 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Poor Helen. Poor bitter, lonely, hateful helen. She's one person who really needs her stocking stuffed. I bet it's been years. Maybe that's why she's so mean.


15 posted on 12/23/2005 7:08:45 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Make high definition tv fun. Aggravate 'em until their heads explode.)
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To: Roscoe Karns
That's the scariest looking ?woman? I have ever seen. Whoa!!!


16 posted on 12/23/2005 7:11:31 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Years?!?!?!? I would hate to see how drunk the dude who stuffed her stocking would be. Then again there is Ted Kennedy, LOL.


17 posted on 12/23/2005 7:12:38 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468; Brett66

Think someone could come up with what the offspring of Helen and Ted would look like?


18 posted on 12/23/2005 7:13:22 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Old age...do your duty!


19 posted on 12/23/2005 7:17:00 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Helen, dear..... it's way past time for your medication.


20 posted on 12/23/2005 7:19:14 PM PST by Just Lori (End the leftist occupation of America!)
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