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Court of Appeals: Constitution "does not demand a wall of separation between church and state."
American Family Association of Michigan ^ | December 21, 2005 | American Family Association of Michigan

Posted on 12/21/2005 1:12:17 PM PST by AFA-Michigan

Values group hails unanimous decision Tuesday

CINCINNATI -- In an astounding return to judicial interpretation of the actual text of the United States Constitution, a unanimous panel of the 6th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals Tuesday issued an historic decision declaring that "the First Amendment does not demand a wall of separation between church and state."

In upholding a Kentucky county's right to display the Ten Commandments, the panel called the American Civil Liberties Union's repeated claims to the contrary "extra-constitutional" and "tiresome."

See Cincinnat Enquirer at: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051221/NEWS01/512210356/1056

See U.S. Court of Appeals decision, page 13: http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/05a0477p-06.pdf

"Patriotic Americans should observe a day of prayer and thanksgiving for this stunning and historic reversal of half a century of misinformation and judicial distortion of the document that protects our religious freedoms," said Gary Glenn, president of the American Family Association of Michigan.

"We are particularly excited that such an historic, factual, and truth-based decision is now a controlling precedent for the federal Court of Appeals that rules on all Michigan cases," Glenn said.

6th Circuit Judge Richard Suhrheinrich wrote in the unanimous decision: "The ACLU makes repeated reference to the 'separation of church and state.' This extra-constitutional construct has grown tiresome. The First Amendment does not demand a wall of separation between church and state. Our nation's history is replete with governmental acknowledgment and in some cases, accommodation of religion."

The words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the U.S. Constitution, though according to polls, a majority of Americans have been misled to believe that they do, Glenn said.

For background information, see:
http://www.answers.com/topic/separation-of-church-and-state-in-the-united-states

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; US: Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

This loss will make the ACLU show their true colors more strongly. See tagline.


141 posted on 12/22/2005 10:58:17 AM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Don't ever forget -- judges (and most politicians) are the spawn of lawyers.


142 posted on 12/22/2005 10:59:20 AM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: AFA-Michigan

This is a big deal. A really big deal.


143 posted on 12/22/2005 11:09:37 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: AFA-Michigan
Thank you for the post. I read the courts opinion and it warmed my heart. "The ACLU ...... does constitute a reasonable person."

I love it. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

144 posted on 12/22/2005 11:30:35 AM PST by Fielding ("Others have died for my freedom, now this is my mark" Cpl. Jeffrey B. Starr")
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To: AFA-Michigan

Fantastic news. Thank you!


145 posted on 12/22/2005 11:37:50 AM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: ohioWfan; snugs; MJY1288; Wolfstar; TruthNtegrity; homemom

fyi


146 posted on 12/22/2005 11:38:03 AM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: BikerTrash

And why is it so hard to believe?


147 posted on 12/22/2005 11:41:33 AM PST by confederate_infidel (Tunafish: tastes like Santa's reindeer.)
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To: mlc9852
...and all of their lawyers sent to one of our nonexistent prisons in Croatia or somewhere...

Unfortunately, lawyers are a dime a dozen (despite the outrageous fees they charge). This is especially true for Leftist lawyers, who appear in droves fully formed from the womb.

148 posted on 12/22/2005 11:55:25 AM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: Cicero
And if Jefferson used that phrase in a letter, so what?

Indeed. Jefferson was in France when the Constitution was written, so even in his own day he was hardly an expert on it. Then, despite all his utterings about small government, he was the first president to massively expand the powers of the federal government beyond what the Constitution provided. He also allowed the federal courts to grab far more power than the Constitution gave them, and we've been paying the price ever since.

149 posted on 12/22/2005 12:00:33 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: plain talk
What good are these victories if no one but FReepers know about it?

Trust me. This one will go up to the Supreme Court. It has to, because now there are very different judicial interpretations of the establishment clause in use in different areas of the country. Once it gets to the Supreme Court, everyone who pays any attention to real news in this country will hear about it.

150 posted on 12/22/2005 12:04:09 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: AFA-Michigan

Any word on how the left or the atheist Newdow is taking this news?


151 posted on 12/22/2005 12:07:27 PM PST by guido911 (cowards cut and run)
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To: rwfromkansas
Jefferson himself did a lot of things that would violate the wall doctrine, so it is clear he himself didn't belive in it.

Such as? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just curious about what actions you had in mind.

152 posted on 12/22/2005 12:14:43 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: confederate_infidel
And why is it so hard to believe?

Short answer:

Because the gauge in my head that measures faith in the people who are sworn to correctly interpret the Constitution is bouncing on empty.

Long answer:

Read the rest of this thread and all the other threads that have ever been on FR about activist judges, ACLU scum, etc.

153 posted on 12/22/2005 12:56:46 PM PST by BikerTrash (Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
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To: GretchenM

Thanks for the ping to this most interesting news, Gretchen. Merry Christmas!


154 posted on 12/22/2005 1:01:07 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: AFA-Michigan

Hell-musta-froze-over Bump!!!!!!!

Flying pigs coming soon to a neighborhood near you!!!


155 posted on 12/22/2005 2:21:11 PM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: mlc9852
"I freely admit the right of a nation to change its political principles and constitution at will." --Thomas Jefferson to the Earl of Buchan, 1803.

There are such things as Constitutional principles.

I don't believe that the words "system of checks and balances" ever appear in the Constitution either, but it does not make the principle any less Constitutional.

156 posted on 12/22/2005 2:27:15 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Pushing for a law in Virginia to punish Sabbath breaking, attending church in the Capitol building etc.


157 posted on 12/22/2005 4:17:40 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: emiller

I am very happy that a judge made the correct decision on the constitution, not allowing leftwing judges continue their assault on the Constituion and the first ammendment. May the good Lord bless this judge and remove the left wing activists from power before they destroy our constitution and make America into but one more neo European socialist nation with a stagnant economy and dumb downed citizens; which explains their inability to deal with the Islamic terrorists and hostile takeover of Italy by violence.


I mean, I'm in Southern California, and believe me- a fence does nothing. There are so many people from Mexico here, it doesn't matter if more get halted. It's too late.


158 posted on 12/22/2005 5:08:43 PM PST by kindred (God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female he created the)
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To: Nathan Zachary
An establishment of religion is a church,synagogue. In otherwords, the government will not interfere with the inner workings of the church

No. It means that there will be no established, official, Federally sanctioned religion. No Church of America, as was the case in England with the C of E.

The Religious Wars were not far in the past for the Founders, and they didn't want that sort of thing starting here. In 1776, the Spanish Inquisition was still around. It wasn't abolished until Napoleon took over Spain.

159 posted on 12/22/2005 5:25:44 PM PST by LexBaird (This message tagged and released back into the wild. Please report sightings.)
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To: BikerTrash

Sorry, I misinterpreted your comment!


160 posted on 12/22/2005 5:53:09 PM PST by confederate_infidel (Tunafish: tastes like Santa's reindeer.)
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