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To: Peach; Justanobody; Bahbah; Mo1

Did any of you see O'Reilly a few minutes ago??

He had on Jonathan Turley..and Turley said that he thinks that Pres. Bush did a "premeditated federal offense..that should be prosecuted..impeachable offense.."


O'Reilly, Turley and the other lawyer ALL said hearings should happen AGAINST Bush...NOT to find out the leaker...


1,952 posted on 12/19/2005 5:16:46 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

OMG. I knew there was a reason I wasn't watching television tonight. LOL

Maybe they should tell us EXACTLY which law was broken because to my knowledge, this all protects the president:

The legislation posted below says that US citizens can be subject to warrantless wiretaps.

section 1801, subsection (i): "United States person," which includes citizens, legal aliens, and businesses, explicitly "does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power."

Does that mean that even if you are a citizen you cash in your abovementioned rights by collaborating with terrorists? Yes. You have then become an "Agent of a foreign power" as defined under subsection (b)(2)(C). Such agents include anyone who "knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power," and even includes those who aid and abet or knowingly conspire with those engaged in such behavior.

Does that include everyone, even citizens? Yes. Subsection (b)(1) is the part that applies to foreigners; (b)(2) covers everybody. And the whole point of the act is to collect "foreign intelligence information," which is defined under section 1801 subsection (e)(1)(B) as "information that relates to, and if concerning a United States person is necessary to, the ability of the United States to protect against sabotage or international terrorism by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power."

And then of course, Newsweek, there's this little tidbit you forgot to mention:

Congress passed new legislation which permitted the wiretapping of US citizens without a warrant.
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1,953 posted on 12/19/2005 5:19:19 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Txsleuth

I watched it...Turley also said that Bush committed a federal crime and is subject to impeachment...my heart sank at that moment.....more ammo for the rats...


1,954 posted on 12/19/2005 5:20:30 PM PST by mystery-ak (Merry Christmas)
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To: Txsleuth
Turley said that he thinks that Pres. Bush did a "premeditated federal offense..that should be prosecuted..impeachable offense.

Turned it off. IF you didn't get to see or hear much today, get ready for the line tomorrow from those in congress who were briefed on this that it wasn't a real briefing or real oversight because they couldn't talk among each other or get their own legal counsel.

1,958 posted on 12/19/2005 5:27:18 PM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Txsleuth
I saw it. What he indicated is the SC would NEVER uphold what the President has done. In the past, they've always kicked down this.

If it goes to the SC...bet this new group, especially when Alito is confirmed, will not kick it down.

Besides, the rats have been on this wiretapping from the get go. Don't think this is going any place.

And as far as the l978 Law is concerned...W was NOT breaking the law.

1,959 posted on 12/19/2005 5:29:28 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Txsleuth
He had on Jonathan Turley..and Turley said that he thinks that Pres. Bush did a "premeditated federal offense..that should be prosecuted..impeachable offense.."

Turley is a Turd.

1,974 posted on 12/19/2005 5:41:59 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? --- Victory is not a strategy.)
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To: Txsleuth
O'Reilly, Turley and the other lawyer ALL said hearings should happen AGAINST Bush...NOT to find out the leaker

I didn't see the show .. But I am listening to BOR on the radio

He is fully behind the president in what the President did as long as it is to fight the terrorists

But you are correct .. he is not interested in who leaked the information

He also thinks the NYT set the President up after sitting on this news for over a year

2,000 posted on 12/19/2005 6:58:10 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Txsleuth

Not me! If the President is not on...neither is my TV. ;*)


2,009 posted on 12/19/2005 7:57:00 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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