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LIVE THREAD: Cloture vote on the Patriot Act Reauthorization bill - C-span 2 9:30 am EST
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Posted on 12/16/2005 6:13:47 AM PST by ken5050

This morning, the Senate meets at 9:30 for a cloture vote on the Patriot Act Reauthorization Bill. Dems have vowed to filabuster it, ( though it's not clear if all will support the filabuster) joined by 4 Republicans. Should be fireworks on the floor..President Bush yesterday firmly called upon the Senate to support the Patriot Act, and many Republicans can't believe the Dems would be stupid enough to do this. So follow along...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; patriotact
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To: TomGuy

That's true


181 posted on 12/16/2005 10:00:50 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1

Corzine is finally done

Now come the praises from the Dems


182 posted on 12/16/2005 10:02:07 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1
My only fear is if a Hellary Clinton should get in the WH .. it will be abused by the likes of her

If she should ever get into the WH, she'll abuse the power whether it's been granted to her or not. Unlike the NYT portrayal of this current administration.

183 posted on 12/16/2005 10:04:33 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: Wasanother
They know what's at stake but the Rats are playing politics with American lives.

Now...this is nothing knew...they really don't care one little bit about Americans, all the RATS care about is their commie agenda.

184 posted on 12/16/2005 10:05:27 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Cboldt

Am I understanding this correctly , Frist voted no so he can keep debate going ? Hope he keeps them in Washington over the New Year.


185 posted on 12/16/2005 10:07:27 AM PST by not-alone
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To: BigSkyFreeper
McCain is a war hero that was "tortured", there I said it but McCain too is playing politics with American lives and he is wrong. McCain doesn't have a farten chance of winning the White House so he needs to quit playing this game.
186 posted on 12/16/2005 10:08:27 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Wasanother
McCain too is playing politics with American lives and he is wrong.

That's always been his agenda. He's in Washington only for himself, just like many members of Congress.

187 posted on 12/16/2005 10:13:10 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

That is true

Geez .. what the hell is Lautenberg talking about .. he is starting to sound like Hollings or Bryd


188 posted on 12/16/2005 10:13:23 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1

Rush just finished reading the parts of the Patriot act that will disappear, thanks to the Democrats and a few Republicans. Essentially takes us back to 9/10/2001.


189 posted on 12/16/2005 10:16:38 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
. Essentially takes us back to 9/10/2001.

Yes I know

190 posted on 12/16/2005 10:23:15 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: not-alone
Am I understanding this correctly , Frist voted no so he can keep debate going ?

Not exactly. Voting for cloture means "enough with the debate, let's vote." Those who voted against cloture wanted more debate. Frist sided with that side (wanting more debate) so he could file a Motion to Reconsider the (cloture) Vote. The effect of this is that the Senate has the ability to redo the cloture vote; if a simple majority of Senators votes Aye to reconsideration.

A vote on the Motion to Reconsider can be at anytime. This maeuver was used with the Bolton nomination, and the interim between the cloture vote and the vote on the motion to reconsider was from May 26 to June 20, 2005. With Bolton, the motion to reconsider passed via unanimous consent, and the cloture motion failed again, but by a slightly narrower margin.

But back to Frist - he doesn't want debate - he wants the conference report to be passed by the Senate. That's why he filed the cloture motion in the first place, to cut off debate and get to the vote. And by filing a motion reconsider, he is hoping he can get enough Senators to agree to cloture (cut off debate) and get to the underlying bill.

191 posted on 12/16/2005 10:30:49 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: mewzilla
Chill. I just meant I'm keeping an open mind and am willing to listen. But not if you're unwilling to reciprocate. It's takes two, dude. And if you don't want to back up what you're saying, I'm not gonna give it any weight.

And I repeat, "Likewise!"

192 posted on 12/16/2005 10:34:15 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Dog
Ted Stevens has attached drilling in ANWR to the Defense bill....and McCain who attached his torture bill to the same bill ...is having a hissy fit.....LOL!

Why should he have a hissy fit? It's his fault he attached his own bill to the military funding bill.

193 posted on 12/16/2005 10:35:08 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: Mo1

DiFi up...


194 posted on 12/16/2005 11:06:04 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

She is basically saying that the President violated the law which would be a high crime and misdemeanor, if true. They are trying to put another bullet in the impeachment gun, I think.


195 posted on 12/16/2005 11:10:50 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Bahbah

She is laying it on thick!


196 posted on 12/16/2005 11:20:56 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Bahbah

While she's trying to put the impeachment bullet in she's also been reading every amendment that indicates it was legal.


197 posted on 12/16/2005 11:22:01 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Bahbah; Mo1

BYRD ALERT!!!


198 posted on 12/16/2005 11:24:20 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Bahbah

Oh he is going to blow a gasket today....


199 posted on 12/16/2005 11:29:20 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
he is going to blow a gasket today

I am hoping. I'm not diverting my attention for one moment.

200 posted on 12/16/2005 11:30:34 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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