LIVE THREAD: Cloture vote on the Patriot Act Reauthorization bill - C-span 2 9:30 am EST

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[ken5050]

This morning, the Senate meets at 9:30 for a cloture vote on the Patriot Act Reauthorization Bill. Dems have vowed to filabuster it, ( though it's not clear if all will support the filabuster) joined by 4 Republicans. Should be fireworks on the floor..President Bush yesterday firmly called upon the Senate to support the Patriot Act, and many Republicans can't believe the Dems would be stupid enough to do this. So follow along...

[Wasanother]

Maybe there should be a vote to eliminate the Senates Christmas Break based on national security reasons and make them debate for the next two weeks.

[Dog]

Ted Stevens has attached drilling in ANWR to the Defense bill....and McCain who attached his torture bill to the same bill ...is having a hissy fit.....LOL!

[mewzilla]

Ted Stevens has attached drilling in ANWR to the Defense bill....and McCain who attached his torture bill to the same bill ...is having a hissy fit.....LOL!

McKeating...er, McCain's been hoist. How fitting.

[Mo1]

NYT 'SPYING' SPLASH TIED TO BOOK RELEASE
Fri Dec 16 200 11:27:16 ET

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1541814/posts

[BigSkyFreeper]

They know what's at stake but the Rats are playing politics with American lives.

That's citing the obvious. McCain is justifying the nonsense some FReepers were expressing about being searched at airports. They bought into the media spin.

[Cboldt]

I don't care who has the better arguement...I want my family safe.

We all want that. And by "has the better argument," I meant to include the notion of the effects of this vote; not just the rhtorical skill with which each side advocated its position.

[OXENinFLA]

BYRD ALERT...

Oh he's done.

[Mo1]

Robert Bryd up now praising Corzine

I Swear I am gonna Barf listening to this crap

[BigSkyFreeper]

I'm not watching, haven't been all morning. I'm mad enough as it is after reading this hitpiece disguised as some breaking news article from the belly of the beast within the DNC.

[Cboldt]

The void left by this vote isn't a risk to national security, in my opinion.

How come?

Because, in my opinion, "the gap" in investigative power is not sufficient to make the difference between stopping and not stopping a terrorist act.

Just my opinion. I have no intention of justifying it or arguing it, or trying to persuade anybody to agree with my opinion.

[Mo1]

Corzine just mentioned The Jersey Girls and praised them for all their work and how proud he is of them

[mewzilla]

Just my opinion. I have no intention of justifying it or arguing it, or trying to persuade anybody to agree with my opinion.

Okay. That tells me what I need to know :)

[Mo1]

Because, in my opinion, "the gap" in investigative power is not sufficient to make the difference between stopping and not stopping a terrorist act.

I'll admit I'm conflicted with this part of the patriot act

But that is Bull

This part of the patriot act is needed to help in stopping the terrorist

My only fear is if a Hellary Clinton should get in the WH .. it will be abused by the likes of her

[mewzilla]

Corzine just mentioned The Jersey Girls and praised them for all their work and how proud he is of them

Him and al Qaeda.

[maggief]

Corzine: "I won't bore you with all of this ..."

Too late ... someone get the hook on this crook.

[Cboldt]

Okay. That tells me what I need to know :)

If you mean my opinion is unworthy, because I won't defend it, then I say to you, "Likewise!" The exchanges on FR aren't substantive or detailed, on either side. I formed my opinion from study independent of FR posts.

[cgk]

LOL - and they (SD Union Tribune) removed it from their home page - how about that.

[Mo1]

Too late ... someone get the hook on this crook.

He's putting me to sleep

[mewzilla]

Chill. I just meant I'm keeping an open mind and am willing to listen. But not if you're unwilling to reciprocate. It's takes two, dude. And if you don't want to back up what you're saying, I'm not gonna give it any weight.

[TomGuy]

My only fear is if a Hellary Clinton should get in the WH .. it will be abused by the likes of her

The Clintons weren't deterred during their previous 2 terms, so why think that anything would deter Hillary, if she gets to occupy the Oval Office? If that happens, she will make up rules to suit her needs at the time, regardless. They did. They will.