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US Jews feel threatened by religious right
Reuters ^ | 12/15/05 | Michael Conlon

Posted on 12/15/2005 6:57:56 PM PST by freedom44

CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. Jewish leaders say they are increasingly worried that Christian conservatives want to turn America politically and culturally into a country that tolerates only their brand of Christianity.

"There is a feeling on all sides that something is changing," said Abraham Foxman, director of the New York-based Anti-Defamation League.

"The polls indicate a very serious thing -- that over 60 percent of the American people feel that religion and Christianity are under attack," he said on Thursday in an interview.

"Some are saying we are attacking (Christianity). This whole movement is not anti-Semitic or motivated by anti-Semitism. But sometimes unintended consequences are much more serious than intended" he added.

Foxman recently arranged a meeting in New York involving six Jewish organizations to discuss the problem. He said that while participants did not agree on the exact level of the problem, they felt a strategy was needed.

"It's not a war room strategy," he added. "It's to understand what's out there."

He said Jews are a people of faith but are opposed to anyone who would say only they know the truth and want to impose it on everyone else.

While every December brings disputes over what to call the "holiday season" and its trappings, the level of lobbying by those who fear Christmas is becoming something generic has been particularly high this year.

But the issues raised by Foxman and others goes much deeper into American society, ranging from challenges to teaching evolution to bans on abortion and same-sex marriage or deciding

what kind of people who should serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.

"Every room (from bedroom to classroom) in the American mansion is under assault to impose either de facto or de jure a Christian theocracy -- I call them Christocrats," said Rabbi James Rudin, former head of interreligious activities for the American Jewish Committee.

"They are people who believe there should be a legally mandated Christian nation, where the concept of separation of church and state is weakened or abandoned," he added.

Rudin said he has met pastors "who say that Jesus Christ is the ultimate leader of America and that God's law trumps the Constitution ... I'm very concerned."

While far from all evangelical Christians hold those views, he said, the influence of those who do is strong.

Rudin, whose book "The Baptizing of America: The Religious Right's Plans for the Rest of Us" will be published in January by Avalon, said those with a theocratic agenda are not anti-Semites, and in fact some of them are among the strongest supporters of the state of Israel.

But he said they are Christians who see secular humanists and globalists as their enemies and who feel they are being attacked.

Mathew (cq) Staver, general counsel of the Florida-based Liberty Counsel, a group which backs conservative Christian causes in court and which has been particularly active in Christmas-related issues, says "there is absolutely no effort that I'm aware of to theocratize America or put down other faiths to expand Christianity."

He credits the increased activity surrounding Christmas issues this year to three years of building an organization over the matter.

"People have said enough is enough," he said, citing such incidents as naming Boston's Christmas tree a "holiday tree" and the publication of a sales catalog by a major retailer which featured Kwanza and Hanukkah gifts but made no mention of Christmas.

President George W. Bush, who describes himself as a born-again Christian, also faced criticism recently for sending out cards wishing people a happy "holiday" season.

"This clearly demonstrates that the Bush administration has suffered a loss of will and that they have capitulated to the worst elements in our culture," William A. Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights told the Washington Post.


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To: freedom44

It just demonstrates that they don't understand Christianity.


21 posted on 12/15/2005 7:07:22 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Let us give thanks to our common God for the forty percent of American Jews who do not believe this nonsense.


22 posted on 12/15/2005 7:07:29 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: freedom44

Which Jews?
assimilated secular Jewish liberals?maybe
not Jewish Jews.


23 posted on 12/15/2005 7:07:46 PM PST by avile
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To: SJackson; Alouette
Ping!
24 posted on 12/15/2005 7:08:03 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

To use a Catholic word: "Bingo! We have a winner!"

Sursum Corda


25 posted on 12/15/2005 7:08:40 PM PST by Sursum Corda (God bless Pope Benedict XVI . Long may he reign.)
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To: freedom44

Yeah, go ask Dennis Prager or Michael Medved how threatened they feel by the Religious Right.

Abe Foxman is an idiot.


26 posted on 12/15/2005 7:08:44 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Win the war. Confirm the judges. Cut the taxes. Control the spending. Secure the border.)
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To: freedom44
I'm sure that the recent resurgence of creationism in Kansas, Pennsylvania, and recently in South Carolina had nothing to do with these guys feeling "threatened" [/sarc]
27 posted on 12/15/2005 7:09:32 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: freedom44
What a load of crap.If the American left had its way there would be no Israel,it would be another terrorist country called Palestine.

How these people can be so willingly blind to the public statements as well as the private ones of leftists is beyond me.

28 posted on 12/15/2005 7:09:45 PM PST by carlr
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To: freedom44

"The polls indicate a very serious thing -- that over 60 percent of the American people feel that religion and Christianity are under attack"

I agree and I'm not even a Christian.


29 posted on 12/15/2005 7:10:14 PM PST by Avenger
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
US secular, assimilated, non-observant Jews [In Name Only] feel threatened by religious right

The "religious right" includes Orthodox Jews

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

30 posted on 12/15/2005 7:10:33 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Well, look on the bright side: this accusation of anti-Semitism gives us an excuse to beat up some Neo-Nazis.


31 posted on 12/15/2005 7:10:46 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: freedom44
"There is a feeling on all sides that something is changing," said Abraham Foxman,

Right you are, Abe; there are a lot of us out here who are tired of putting up with your secularist anti-American sh*t.

32 posted on 12/15/2005 7:10:51 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: BenLurkin

Let Jackie Mason at them he will set them straight.


33 posted on 12/15/2005 7:11:07 PM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: freedom44

IMO This is ridiculous and a slander on Christians - Again. American Jews have much more to fear from secularists and some of their own faith than any Christians.


34 posted on 12/15/2005 7:11:10 PM PST by TCats
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To: Alouette

Thanks i was about to ping this to you.


35 posted on 12/15/2005 7:11:21 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44
I call them Christocrats," said Rabbi James Rudin

Well, aren't you just so clever Mr. Rudin........

Can anyone tell me in a few short words why there is even a liberal Jew? Of all the groups in the world, I would think they would all be of the right wing persuasion. I don't get it.

36 posted on 12/15/2005 7:12:00 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: freedom44
Are these the same Jewish leaders who thought The Passion of The Christ was going to turn everyone into Jew-haters?

Thought so.

37 posted on 12/15/2005 7:12:27 PM PST by SaveTheChief (Merry Christmas)
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To: familyop

"Second, most of them are conservative and happy enough with truly morally conservative Christians."

You may want to rethink. IIRC, They vote about 70-30 dem!


38 posted on 12/15/2005 7:12:51 PM PST by lawdude (LIEberals/socialists make up facts and history as they go!)
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To: freedom44
"A good friend of mine whos Jewish conservative who said that liberals care more about abortion and social issues than Israel."
What does that have to do with what the article is about. But of course the libs are more interested in killing little soon to be babies and handing out tax monies to unwed mothers that produce large numbers of future gang leaders etc.. But regardless of what any given "religious group" may voice, we have a constitution that must be upheld. And all have a right as citizens in this land to practice their religion as they see fit as long as it does not hurt others nor step over the line to cause insurections, publically distress others etc.. Lets face it. The majority of Jews in this country, had early on embraced the democratic party. And now they are as stuck as any Irishmen, Pole, Italian etc., that got suckered in. Tell a lie enough times and all will believe the lie including the perpetrator.....FDR... the democrats are for the little guy, and the republicans are only for big business.
The crap continues as I write.
39 posted on 12/15/2005 7:13:25 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: freedom44
Abraham Foxman and Eric Yoffie seem to overlook Islamofascism. I guess the the fact Al Qaeda, Hezbollah and their offshoots want to wipe out Jews instead of convert them doesn't seem to get their attention. Its another instance of liberal Jews obssessing over what's happened in the past rather than preparing the community for the future. Sure, some Christians may want to convert Jews but its not the same as the extinction Jews would face the hands of victorious Islamic extremists. Its so much easier to bury one's heads in the sand than deal with what's in front of you. America's Jewish liberal leaders are doing American Jews a grave disservice.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

40 posted on 12/15/2005 7:13:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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