[mysterio]

Does $10 an hour sound reasonable for someone who has worked 30 years in manufacturing?

I thought we all believed that hard work deserves to be rewarded and that anyone can pull themselves up here in America with the right opportunity. I guess the new belief here is that anyone with a college education deserves the opportunity to make good money and spend the entire work day posting to internet message boards instead of working. Until those jobs are outsourced, too, that is. Because remember, there are plenty of college educated people in India who could do any of our jobs for half the price. Perhaps we college educated folks should take a drastic pay cut to reflect that fact.

[Ninian Dryhope]

"Does $10 an hour sound reasonable for someone who has worked 30 years in manufacturing?"

Sure. Why would a person be paid more for doing a simple repetitive task over and over again for thirty years?

[operation clinton cleanup]

Does $10 an hour sound reasonable for someone who has worked 30 years in manufacturing?

No, but Delphi was created in 1999. Nobody has more than 6 years with the company, by my calculations. But I am only a college graduate making $18 dollars an hour.

[Doctor Stochastic]

You are paid by what your job is worth, not what you are worth.

[bert]

.....Does $10 an hour sound reasonable for someone who has worked 30 years in manufacturing?......

Why does seniority matter? Most of what he knows is obsolete and he is really no better that nsomeone who has been there 5 years.


A 30 year union worker has learned better how not to work and is a handicap rather than an aset.

[RipSawyer]

. Perhaps we college educated folks should take a drastic pay cut to reflect that fact.>>>>>>>

In case you haven't noticed that has already happened, it was once possible to go out with a high school diploma and earn a living, it now takes at least a four year degree and a lot of those with the degree are having a tough time. As a twenty five year old with only a high school diploma I was able to rent a decent apartment, drive a new full sized car, go out to clubs three or four nights a week and eat most of my meals out and still put money in savings. Most of the twenty five year olds that I know now still live with parents because they cannot pay their own way. I was considered to be backward at that age because I did not already have a wife and children. Now anyone who is married before twenty five is a rarity in this area.

[CIB-173RDABN]

I thought we all believed that hard work deserves to be rewarded ...

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What forum have you been reading. I certainly do not belive that there is a promise that my hard work will be rewarded.

Compensation for any work performed is based on the value that work brings to the product. There is a further condition on just how many workers are available that can add that same value.

The more technical or knowledge required to perform a given task, the fewer workers there are to do it, the more valuable that labor is.

The less technical or amount of knowledge required means there is a larger pool of individuals available, the less value the labor is. This explains why a brain surgeon gets paid more then a counter person at McDonalds.

It has nothing to do with "how hard you work".

It is up to the individual to make themselves valuable to the business. There are no gurantees.

You want to earn a lot of money, get a skill that will be in demand. (But even this is not a gurantee, as the market can change at any point.)

Rule number 1, life is not fair.

Rule number 2, be prepared for when the bottom falls out.