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Workers Rally Against Delphi Wage Cuts
AP via Yahoo! ^ | December 11, 2005 | AP

Posted on 12/11/2005 11:18:40 AM PST by Brilliant

KOKOMO, Ind. (AP) -- At least a thousand people rallied in central Indiana against steep wage cuts proposed by auto parts manufacturer Delphi Corp., which has filed for bankruptcy protection.

Workers say the proposed cuts -- from $27 an hour to between $10 and $12.50 -- are unfair, especially as Delphi has given bonuses to managers and other executives. United Auto Workers officials have said a strike against Delphi appears increasingly likely.

"To the Delphi workers here and everyone else, there are 380,000 union workers in the state of Indiana who will march in this battle with you," said Indiana AFL-CIO President Ken Zeller. "You are not alone."

Workers carried signs that read, "Delphi cooks the books/Workers get BURNED."

Delphi spokesman Lindsey Williams declined comment.

One in three jobs in Kokomo is tied to manufacturing, and the Howard County community is poised to take a heavy blow as its two big employers -- Delphi and DaimlerChrysler -- eye layoffs or pay cuts.

Delphi has been operating under bankruptcy protection since October and is seeking to cut hourly workers' wages by more than 60 percent.

Based in Troy, Mich., Delphi has about 6,000 employees in Indiana, most of whom work at the company's Electronics & Safety Division headquartered in Kokomo.

The company was founded in 1999 as a spin-off from General Motors. With 185,000 workers worldwide, Delphi is the nation's largest auto supplier.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: aflcio; auto; bankruptcy; buisness; delphi; manufacturing; unions
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Does $10 an hour sound reasonable for someone who has worked 30 years in manufacturing?

I thought we all believed that hard work deserves to be rewarded and that anyone can pull themselves up here in America with the right opportunity. I guess the new belief here is that anyone with a college education deserves the opportunity to make good money and spend the entire work day posting to internet message boards instead of working. Until those jobs are outsourced, too, that is. Because remember, there are plenty of college educated people in India who could do any of our jobs for half the price. Perhaps we college educated folks should take a drastic pay cut to reflect that fact.
41 posted on 12/11/2005 12:36:20 PM PST by mysterio
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To: listenhillary

I reread the story. You are probably correct.


42 posted on 12/11/2005 12:39:01 PM PST by ol' hoghead (it'll only work)
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To: mysterio
"Does $10 an hour sound reasonable for someone who has worked 30 years in manufacturing?"

Sure. Why would a person be paid more for doing a simple repetitive task over and over again for thirty years?
43 posted on 12/11/2005 12:39:03 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: CheyennePress
"But this is pretty freakin' drastic."

The company is bankrupt, in case that went over your head.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.
44 posted on 12/11/2005 12:41:30 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: mysterio
Does $10 an hour sound reasonable for someone who has worked 30 years in manufacturing?

No, but Delphi was created in 1999. Nobody has more than 6 years with the company, by my calculations. But I am only a college graduate making $18 dollars an hour.

45 posted on 12/11/2005 12:45:36 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup (Johnson & Johnson = Bengals win!)
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To: mysterio

"so the workers are well within their rights to strike."

Sure, for all the good it will do them. The company is bankrupt. Reality has set in. Going on strike is not going to get these unskilled workers $20/hour and benefits.


46 posted on 12/11/2005 12:45:40 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Ninian Dryhope
I assume your job could not be done more cheaply by someone in another country.

And yes, I think that someone who remains loyal to a company for 30 years deserves to get yearly raises. And if the company signs a contract, then they are bound by it, even if they are stupid enough to sign a non-sustainable one.

Word is that 600 executives are splitting up around $500 million dollars as part of the bankruptsy, as well. I'm sure that's fine and dandy.
47 posted on 12/11/2005 12:47:46 PM PST by mysterio
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To: TXBSAFH

"And they can find jobs paying that in a few months."

Many will, but some will not.

"They have nothing to lose."

They have nothing to gain either, since going on strike is not going to get them their $27/hour jobs back.


48 posted on 12/11/2005 12:49:21 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Delphi was spun off from GM in 1999. There are plenty of workers who have worked their for 30 years. They just worked for GM owned Delphi for most of that time.


49 posted on 12/11/2005 12:49:35 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

True. I guess the lesson is, save your money if you have a cushy union job because the union cant save you when things go wrong.


50 posted on 12/11/2005 12:53:34 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup (Johnson & Johnson = Bengals win!)
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To: mysterio
I worked for GM spun off EDS in the late 90's. It crapped out and I moved on.
51 posted on 12/11/2005 12:55:40 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup (Johnson & Johnson = Bengals win!)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"No, but Delphi was created in 1999."

It was spun off of GM in 1999. The plants and the workers have been around for much longer.


52 posted on 12/11/2005 12:56:56 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: mysterio

"And yes, I think that someone who remains loyal to a company for 30 years deserves to get yearly raises."

Fine. Go ahead and give such raises in your company.


53 posted on 12/11/2005 12:59:46 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: mysterio
The company agreed to non-sustainable wages because the only alternative was the Caterpillar Option: build up a maximum level of cash and product inventory, then tell the UAW a big "NO" to higher wages and benefits. Then endure a very long, costly strike that ends in no contract settlement and the workers finally going back to their jobs 6-9 months later under the old contract. Caterpillar made a very wise but difficult choice to go down that road and refused to give the UAW higher wages and benefits. GM always chose the easier way out and caved in to the UAW by giving them most of what they wanted.

In my view, the leaders of the big, old unions have essentially zero understanding of business strategy. Like so many Democrats, they make decisions based on emotion, pride, and what makes them feel good today. The big old unions have totally screwed themselves up by using dumb business strategy and refusing to change their strategy as Asian competition has strengthened. It's sad the way this has screwed over the union people and has cost them so many jobs and more jobs in the future.

54 posted on 12/11/2005 1:01:16 PM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

But it may keep the jobs at $16 o $20 an hour. Lets see who yells uncle first.


55 posted on 12/11/2005 1:03:56 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
You are excellent at ignoring every point of a post that doesn't support your argument.

1. Are you arguing that workers shouldn't get yearly raises if they stay with a company and do a good job? Or should raises only be given to college educated, non-manufacturing workers?

2. Is it ok to shaft the workers and then split up $500 million among 600 executives?
56 posted on 12/11/2005 1:07:13 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Brilliant

There is one certainty...... parts made by Delphi after the bankruptcy won't be worth the cardboard boxes they come in.

Indiana union workers are a vindictive lot and will crap in the stew.

I had the misfortune of having one of the last jobs out of a majot metal fabricating plant in Indianapolis. They made the last run on top of the building a half inch too short. By the time I got there to inspect before shipping the workers were gone and the supervisors had to make it all over again. It took weeks to get new material, have it fabricated and finished.

The plant floor looked like a war zone. The fabrication involved studwelding fasteners to the panels and the workers would hurl the studs across the shop. The wire glass enclosure to the supervisors office was pocked with the stud marks.

The great American union workingmen can become vindictive terrorists. the 60 day laoff rule was written to provide a revenge period.


57 posted on 12/11/2005 1:07:53 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Franks in '08)
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To: patton
Either way, you lose you house - what's the difference?

6000 employees times $12.00/hr times 2100 hrs/yr = $151,200,000.00 circulating in the local economy and keeping some momentum going.

Otherwise the banks and other business go under and throw more people out of work and you revert to the depression.

58 posted on 12/11/2005 1:08:09 PM PST by oldbrowser (The U.S. Senate is a quagmire.)
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To: Brilliant

Better to be unemployed at $27/hr than to work for $14/hr.


59 posted on 12/11/2005 1:09:32 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: ol' hoghead
It wasn't until 2003 that hourly employees had to pay any portion the insurance costs.

Those of us working for universities were doing that (25-50% of insurance costs) during the 1970s to 2004 at least.

60 posted on 12/11/2005 1:11:59 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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