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School cancels Salvation Army fundraising trip (Madison, WI)
Wisconsin State Journal ^
| 12/9/05
| YANA PASKOVA ypaskova@madison.com
Posted on 12/09/2005 11:50:33 AM PST by Jean S
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:50:34 AM PST
by
Jean S
To: JeanS
WI is really starting to p*ss me off!
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:52:01 AM PST
by
add925
To: JeanS
But hey, there's no war on Christmas. That's just the paranoia of a few right-wing fundies...right?
To: JeanS
To: JeanS
There is no constitutional separation of church and state.
There is, however, a constitutional right to practice our religion, anytime, anywhere, including schools.
If you don't want your children participating then keep them out that day, but don't tell others not to do it.
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:54:34 AM PST
by
Awestruck
(All the usual suspects)
To: JeanS
Then have THAT little cretin, stay home.
This is getting to be ridiculous.
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:55:24 AM PST
by
nmh
( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
To: JeanS
And the original purpose of the permission slips would have been what?????
The correct answer to this bozo or bozette would have been, "What you are holding is a permission slip. If you don't want your child to participate then mark NO." Hang up, off the record comment "Idiot".
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:56:03 AM PST
by
SampleMan
To: Awestruck
Funny how they always ignore that "free exercise thereof" phrase, ain't it?
To: JeanS
Two third-grade teachers said students participated in an identical field trip with the Salvation Army last year.
One of the teachers who organized the field trip last year, Amy Carran, said parents could opt their child out of both the 2004 and 2005 trips.
So WHAT CHANGED THIS YEAR?
Keep the little atheist home and let others have some joy.
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:56:36 AM PST
by
nmh
( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
To: JeanS
the dem/stealth-commies here in madison are not all that afraid to voice their anti-(use, values, morality, etc) twaddle...
it is a nice place to live other than the winter months...
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:58:26 AM PST
by
NoClones
To: JeanS
I bet if the school sent the kids to help collect cash in a cauldron while banging a hammer and sickle together these parents would have no problem at all: especially if the money was donated to planned parenthood.
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:59:00 AM PST
by
conservonator
(Pray for those suffering)
To: nmh
Getting to be? How about gotten to be? IMHO, it got ugly a number of years ago. Especially in the People's Republic of Madison (or Madistan).
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:59:10 AM PST
by
brewcrew
To: Diana in Wisconsin
To: JeanS
I would hate to be the kid of the parent that complained, he stopped a field trip (read a day with no school) the kids are not going to like that, he is not going to be very popular.
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posted on
12/09/2005 12:00:22 PM PST
by
mpop
To: JeanS
Blame the people who elected a spineless school board.
With the secret ballot, those who voted for the current regime has no accountability.
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posted on
12/09/2005 12:00:37 PM PST
by
Mark was here
(How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
To: JeanS
The 1st Amendment prohibits Congress from passing legislation that has to do with the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof. It doesn't prohibit either of those things, only the legislation of them.
Therefore, if it is found that any federal legislation tends to establish or prohibit, the LEGISLATION is in violation of the Constitution. The free exercise of religion is NOT a violation.
Further, in the above case, the LEGISLATION becomes null and void if it results in a constitutional vilation. This means, the federal legislation that funds or regulates public schools should be null and void. BUT THE FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION IS NOT TO BE PROHIBITED.
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posted on
12/09/2005 12:02:46 PM PST
by
savedbygrace
(SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
To: JeanS
"My kids were very disappointed," Carran said. "A lot of them said, 'It's not fair; it's not fair. Why can't that parent just keep their child home that day? It's not fair that the rest of us can't go.'"Out of the mouths of babes......
Can anyone find this principal's email address so I can let him know what I think of his decision?
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posted on
12/09/2005 12:04:19 PM PST
by
Tokra
(I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
To: JeanS
"My feeling is that we can certainly accomplish the same goals by having a service project within an organization that doesn't have a religious affiliation, and I'm hoping that sometime in the future they'll come up with an alternative," Fried said."
Does that mean next year's trip will be to the local Planned Parenthood?
To: nmh
And maybe a few more "homeless and poor" will have a nicer Christmas.
Atheists hate the poor and homeless. Or are more concerned about their perceived threat, than the people who might be helped.
Isn't the Salvation Army an arm of FEMA? Would they not want FEMA to help people during disasters?
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=6357
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posted on
12/09/2005 12:07:19 PM PST
by
dhs12345
(w)
To: Tokra
Chávez Elem. 442-2000 3502 Maple Grove Dr. (19)
Principal - Howard Fried
Andrea Kreft - Interim
Secretary - Debbie Kollberg
Best I could do.
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posted on
12/09/2005 12:13:59 PM PST
by
L98Fiero
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