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The Age of Autism: "A Pretty Big Secret" (No Autism in large pool of unvaccinated children)
The Washington Times/UPI ^ | December 7, 2005 | Dan Olmstead

Posted on 12/08/2005 6:15:13 PM PST by agsloss

It's a far piece from the horse-and-buggies of Lancaster County, Pa., to the cars and freeways of Cook County, Ill. But thousands of children cared for by Homefirst Health Services in metropolitan Chicago have at least two things in common with thousands of Amish children in rural Lancaster: They have never been vaccinated. And they don't have autism. "We have a fairly large practice. We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received vaccines," said Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, Homefirst's medical director who founded the practice in 1973. Homefirst doctors have delivered more than 15,000 babies at home, and thousands of them have never been vaccinated....

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KEYWORDS: amish; autism; health; medicine; vaccines
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1 posted on 12/08/2005 6:15:14 PM PST by agsloss
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To: agsloss

Bump for later read.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 6:16:00 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: conservative cat

ding


3 posted on 12/08/2005 6:16:29 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: agsloss

I am pretty sure that the Amish do other things (than vaccinations) differently than city folks.


4 posted on 12/08/2005 6:20:54 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

like no TV


5 posted on 12/08/2005 6:21:52 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: jim_trent
I am pretty sure that the Amish do other things (than vaccinations) differently than city folks.

Precisely. Plus, if autism has a genetic component, one would suspect that the Amish draw from a different gene pool than the general population.

While interesting, this anecdotal (I don't think we've ever seen) report has very little persuasive power or scientific merit.

6 posted on 12/08/2005 6:23:49 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: agsloss

Interesting, but correlation is not causation. Whoops! Washington Times should be ashamed.

Further, the American Autism Society (or somesuch) says that the precise cause of autism is not known, but that it is probably genetic.


7 posted on 12/08/2005 6:24:14 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: agsloss

very interesting


8 posted on 12/08/2005 6:24:53 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: ModelBreaker

I have known some Amish. Perhaps it wasn't autism, but I've seen several "special needs" Amish children.


9 posted on 12/08/2005 6:27:39 PM PST by digger48
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To: agsloss

This is pretty hard to explain as anecdotal and therefore not statistically significant.


10 posted on 12/08/2005 6:31:04 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: agsloss

If the differences in the populations are this dramatic, then why doesn't Dr. Eisenstein do a statistically valid study, instead of citing anecdotal information?

If he's a doctor, surely he knows what constitutes the necessary scientific proof to make action possible.


11 posted on 12/08/2005 6:31:57 PM PST by LouD
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To: ModelBreaker
While interesting, this anecdotal (I don't think we've ever seen) report has very little persuasive power or scientific merit.

I know a family that had a bright and ordinary three year old. They took him for a routine vacination ... three days later he was Autistic. Those parents went to great lengths to research this, only to find out that many parents had the exact same experience. Research does indicate that the mercury compounds used as preservatives tend to pool in the bottom of the serum. If the bottle is not shaken before a dose is given, the mercury concentration will increase. The last kid vaccinated with the bottle gets nailed for life.

This is another major coverup in progress, since this problem was identified ten years ago.

12 posted on 12/08/2005 6:34:10 PM PST by GingisK
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To: agsloss

Has anybody checked to see if autism existed before vaccinations?


13 posted on 12/08/2005 6:35:31 PM PST by dsc
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To: agsloss

My wife teaches natural childbirth, and thus she also reads a lot about other things introduced to children by recent generations - like mass vaccinations. She has mentioned this alleged link to me before. It seems like a logical explanation to me. Some people, however, don't even want to hear about, much less discuss, such a possibility.


14 posted on 12/08/2005 6:36:36 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: Freedom4US

"Further, the American Autism Society (or somesuch) says that the precise cause of autism is not known, but that it is probably genetic."

I don't think the thimerosol argument is linked to autism from biological sources. It's alleged mercury poisoning exhibits the same symptoms as forms of what we've called autism.

Their could be other environmental causes.

The relative surge in autism could be environmental, could be due to increased reporting and disgnosis, or could be due to trends of older women having children. I think the last has been discounted. The surge has an interesting correlation with thimerosol's increased use. The symptoms presented also correlate with mercury poisoning (of very young children). Is it the causation? Saying it can't be proved doesn't disprove a causation, such is merely an admission we don't know.

Should we use mercury in vaccines? If arsenic was found to be a good substitute, should we use arsenic-based perservative in vaccines?


15 posted on 12/08/2005 6:37:24 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Cicero

All true but it has long been suspected by some notable minds in the medical profession that autism has some relationship to vaccinations. I don't remember precisely but I believe it was either the chickenpox or polio vaccine that they were looking in to.


16 posted on 12/08/2005 6:39:55 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: agsloss

My anecdotal musings are just as relevant as the ones in the article. I have seen Autism where genes were the cause, and where genes were not the cause, where FAS was present, and where it was not present, and where post birth difficulties were present, and where the birth was perfect. When do I collect my Nobel Prize(just the money, thank you)?


17 posted on 12/08/2005 6:40:16 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: Freedom4US

Take a view of Wakefield's recent presentation. The link between vaccines and autism has solid scientific support.

http://www.chem.cmu.edu/wakefield/


18 posted on 12/08/2005 6:41:34 PM PST by agsloss
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To: GingisK
Same exact thing happened to my niece.

The coverup is monstrous.

19 posted on 12/08/2005 6:48:27 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Shermy
The relative surge in autism

Now where did that statement come from? Due you mean the large number of babies that are birthed in this country by third world illegal women, who came to this country already with child and probably were never vaccinated for anything. Sort of makes you wonder doesn't it????

20 posted on 12/08/2005 6:49:28 PM PST by org.whodat
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