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Leinart goes from Heisman to wingman
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| December 7, 2005
| Peter Schrager
Posted on 12/07/2005 8:58:47 AM PST by rockthecasbah
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How's this for filling the shoes of a Heisman Trophy winner (Carson Palmer)? Leinart, a sophomore who had never thrown a pass at USC while seeing brief action in just 3 games in 2002, won USC's starting quarterback job at the end of 2003 spring practice...by an ever-so-slight edge. Matt threw the first pass of his college career (for a touchdown) against the Auburn Tigers in 2003. Since then he has led the Trojans to an impressive 36 -1 record as the starting quarterback. His lone loss occurred at Cal on September 27, 2003 in overtime.
To: rockthecasbah
The author wrote a whole column just so he could use the word "Boner."
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posted on
12/07/2005 8:59:36 AM PST
by
July 4th
(A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
To: rockthecasbah
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posted on
12/07/2005 8:59:51 AM PST
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dfwgator
To: MikeinIraq
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:00:10 AM PST
by
rockthecasbah
(4th & 9. 1:32 left in the 4th quarter. Down by 3 at Notre Dame. No problem. Fight on!)
To: rockthecasbah
Luigi, "Boner", SchneiderUhh huh huh, you said "boner," uh huh huh.
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:00:38 AM PST
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dfwgator
To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; daybreakcoming; Barney59; bourbon; conservativehusker; dakine; ..
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To: rockthecasbah
One interesting note about the Heisman Trophy is that it is not a good indicator of NFL success for the quarterback position. Since 1980 a total of 12 quarterbacks have won the Heisman, and none of them has gone on to become a franchise-type QB in the NFL. 2002 winner Carson Palmer may end up being the best of the bunch, but other than Doug Flutie (1984) and Vinnie Testaverde (1986) none of them went on to have successful NFL careers. Most of them, in fact, have been complete NFL busts . . . and 1993 Heisman Tropy winner Charlie Ward ended up playing pro basketball in the NBA and was never given any serious consideration by NFL teams.
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:15:16 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
To: rockthecasbah
Leinart is a stiff who is probably one of the most overhyped college football players in recent memory. Check out the first half of the recent UCLA game if you need confirmation. Pass after pass to open receivers were uncatchable high. This against the worst defense in the Pac-10. USC won the game on the strength of their ground attack.
He wins because he's on a great team surrounded by great players. Reggie Bush deserves the Heisman this year.
Leinart didn't even deserve to be all Pac-10 last year, let alone Heisman material. Joe Walter, Drew Olsen, and Arron Rodgers were all better QB's in 2004.
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:15:25 AM PST
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BigBobber
To: MikeinIraq
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:16:02 AM PST
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BTHOtu
To: BigBobber
"Check out the first half of the recent UCLA game if you need confirmation. Pass after pass to open receivers were uncatchable high"
Check out the first and second half of January's Orange Bowl to see why Leinart rightfully won the Heisman last year.
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:27:36 AM PST
by
rockthecasbah
(4th & 9. 1:32 left in the 4th quarter. Down by 3 at Notre Dame. No problem. Fight on!)
To: BigBobber
Check out the first half of the recent UCLA game if you need confirmation. He had a bad half and you call him a stiff?
He has lost one game as a starter.
Read up on what happened before the game, then come back when you know what you are talking about.
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:45:10 AM PST
by
Michael.SF.
(Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
To: rockthecasbah
His lone loss occurred at Cal on September 27, 2003 in overtime. More precisely: Triple OT.
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:47:38 AM PST
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Michael.SF.
(Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
To: Alberta's Child
Since 1980 a total of 12 quarterbacks have won the Heisman, and none of them has gone on to become a franchise-type QB in the NFL.Not for long. Carson Palmer may win MVP this year and has the best numbers in the NFL.
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posted on
12/07/2005 9:49:04 AM PST
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PRND21
To: BigBobber
Leinart is a stiff who is probably one of the most overhyped college football players in recent memory.Ridiculous.
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12/07/2005 9:49:56 AM PST
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PRND21
To: rockthecasbah
Leinart has run up better numbers this year than last, yet the conventional wisdom is that he'll finish third in the Heisman balloting.
He's okay with that. As a former Heisman winner he gets to cast a vote, and he said he voted for Reggie Bush.
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12/07/2005 10:10:23 AM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: PRND21
He's a good player on a great team. Nothing more. The USC hype machine and LA press put him where he is.
Check back in five years and we'll see how he does in the NFL.
To: rockthecasbah
"You can be my wingman any time, `Maverick'."
Val 'Iceman' Kilmer
Boner? Did he say "boner"?
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posted on
12/07/2005 10:32:16 AM PST
by
OkieDoke
To: BigBobber
The USC hype machine and LA press put him where he is.Not losing and putting up great numbers got him where he is.
Check back in five years and we'll see how he does in the NFL.
Ok. See Carson Palmer.
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12/07/2005 10:52:29 AM PST
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PRND21
To: Alberta's Child
Eric Crouch wanted to play QB but every team wanted him to play Strong Safety.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:01:21 AM PST
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aft_lizard
(What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
To: BigBobber
"hype machine?!"
You want hype? Check this out:
"Forget about the Dolphins and Colts. If Indy beats the Jaguars, Chargers and Seahawks, then we'll talk. Until then, we ought to be naming babies, buildings and freeways after the greatest dynasty this side of Ming.
The USC Trojans.
The Colts are 12-0, and we're treating them like they've been canonized by Paul Tagliabue. I love the way the Colts play (I'd pay money just to watch Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison in pregame warm-ups), but the Colts haven't even clinched the AFC South yet. Meanwhile, Pete Carroll's USC program has won its last 34 games and is going for an unprecedented third consecutive national championship.
The Trojans haven't lost a game since Sept. 27, 2003, and it took three overtime periods at Cal to do it. Since Oct. 6, 2002, USC is 45-1. Freaks.
In those 45 victories, only five were decided by less than a touchdown.
Thirty-three of those wins were decided by 20 points or more. Colts, who? .... The Trojans are on such a championship roll, they have their own parking space at the White House Rose Garden. The only downside to this remarkable run is having to hear the Trojan Marching Band play "Conquest" 11,000 times per game."
-Gene Wojciechowski
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:06:17 AM PST
by
rockthecasbah
(4th & 9. 1:32 left in the 4th quarter. Down by 3 at Notre Dame. No problem. Fight on!)
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