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Nearly 30 years later people from that administration just can't seem to fade away...
1 posted on 12/04/2005 4:42:31 PM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Both seek the total enslavement of the world's poopulation.


2 posted on 12/04/2005 4:45:21 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: RWR8189

"...Bush is implicitly elevating Osama bin Laden's stature and historic significance to the level of figures such as Lenin, Stalin or Mao..."

Hitler was regarded as an insignificant kook by many, but managed to cause the death of millions and untold misery.

Bush is right. Brzezinski is wrong.


3 posted on 12/04/2005 4:48:42 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: RWR8189

I think the Communism comparison works, especially because anti-American leftists (aka Communists) are siding with the Islamicists.


5 posted on 12/04/2005 4:52:48 PM PST by syriacus (There oughtta be a law -- that the image of every pill sold in the US is on one government website)
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A quote from ZB:

"What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"

Some "stirred up Muslims" indeed! ZB's jealous of losing his place in history, whatever that is...

7 posted on 12/04/2005 4:59:28 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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Brezinski, was he the architect of the first Afghan jihad with Jimmy Carter?

Still fighting the Cold War...


9 posted on 12/04/2005 5:03:17 PM PST by Shermy
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To: RWR8189

ZB talks as though Lenin, Stalin and Mao did something good and admirable.

You can't be elevated to the level of Lenin, Stalin or Mao. You can only be compared to their same low station in the history of humanity.


10 posted on 12/04/2005 5:06:42 PM PST by Pylot
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Do These Two Have Anything in Common? (Islamofascism & Communism)

Yes, they have something in common: Brzezinski supports both of them.

11 posted on 12/04/2005 5:06:54 PM PST by Fedora
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To: RWR8189; Clemenza; rmlew; PARodrig; Do not dub me shapka broham
The collapse of the soviet union and the communist empire elevated mr. Brzezinski into insignificance along with countless other so called "soviet" experts. Their industry collapsed God forbid that a threat should arise that would in any way be the equivalent or greater threat than what they professed experitse at. Remeber that these were the people who advocated detante, accomodation and outright appeasemtn to the communist threat until Reagan came along.



13 posted on 12/04/2005 5:10:41 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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He is old and senile and needs to be put out to pasture and should have been long ago.


14 posted on 12/04/2005 5:11:22 PM PST by oilfieldtrash
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15 posted on 12/04/2005 5:11:45 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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"Underlying the president's analogy is the proposition that bin Laden's "jihad" has the potential for dominating the minds and hearts of hundreds of millions of people across national and even religious boundaries. That is quite a compliment to bin Laden, but it isn't justified. The "Islamic" jihad is, at best, a fragmented and limited movement that hardly resonates in most of the world."

Here's where he's wrong. There are far more Muslims in the world than were ever under Soviet Influence. And virtually all of these muslims will not speak up against Islamic jihad, and by their very silence express their acceptance.

Communism never made an inroad where Democracy had a strong foot hold other than by force. However the Jihaddists are everywhere Muslims have anything close to a majority.

No matter how much you whistle past the graveyard, you can not dismiss the similarity.

16 posted on 12/04/2005 5:13:50 PM PST by adamsjas
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I copied a post on another forum long ago. The author is unknown, but had good insight:

There are 2 kinds of Socialists:

1 National Socialists.
These guys like to take over and tell you what to do.
They control industry and supply by co-opting the business owners, so giving the impression of independent ownership.
They hate anyone who doesn't share their beliefs, especially the Jews who they like to exterminate.
They are strongly nationalistic and wish to take over the world to make everyone like them.
Examples: Nazis and Islamists


2 International Socialists
These guys like to take over and tell you what to do.
They control industry and supply by killing the business owners, so destroying any impression of independent ownership.
They hate anyone who doesn't share their beliefs, especially the Jews who they like to exterminate.
They are strongly international and wish to take over the world to link up with everyone like them in other countries.
Examples: Communists and ..er... Socialists


The bottom line is as people have said, the result is the same: you are screwed.

Quote: Communists are Socialists in a hurry.


18 posted on 12/04/2005 5:48:53 PM PST by MtnClimber
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What do Brzezinski and Stansfield Turner have in common?

Jimmy Carter!

Says it all! National Security Advisor and CIA Slub.


19 posted on 12/04/2005 5:49:18 PM PST by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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Both Islam and Communism elevate the group over the individual. In both, the individual's purpose is to advance the goals of the group (State, Ummah, whatever) rather than the group existing to create a safe environment for the individual to work on his own goals


21 posted on 12/04/2005 6:04:45 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the conceit to think they will be the planners)
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Well, Brzezinski,I can't seem to remember Lenin, Stalin or Mao ever being so bold as to murder 3,000 Americans, right here at home. Perhaps you, Sir, and all those others of your ilk are just too stupid to recognize the magnatude of the threat represented by the terrorist Islamites.


22 posted on 12/04/2005 6:05:22 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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The threat, Zbig, sir, is even greater. The Soviets had never colonized the West as the Islam has, even if they succeeded in infiltrating all of our institutions. The threat is not as much from the bombings in Western Europe and elsewhere, or other military actions, it is from the cultural change, sir, that is happening right before your rose colored glasses. Dude!.


24 posted on 12/04/2005 6:13:45 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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They are both left-wing and opposed to freedom:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1533980/posts?page=32


25 posted on 12/04/2005 6:17:50 PM PST by ChessExpert (Democrats: Sore/Losermen 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012)
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Liberals think "Islam" means "peace." Actually it means "submission." Muslims believe "peace" will be achieved when the world submits to their false idol. Likewise the leftist peaceniks believe peace will be achieved by crushing resistance to international socialism.


27 posted on 12/04/2005 7:01:10 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RWR8189
And that suggests, in turn, that the fugitive Saudi dissident hiding in some cave (or perhaps even deceased) has been articulating a doctrine of universal significance. Underlying the president's analogy is the proposition that bin Laden's "jihad" has the potential for dominating the minds and hearts of hundreds of millions of people across national and even religious boundaries. That is quite a compliment to bin Laden, but it isn't justified.

It's like he sees the truth, but then it's just too much for him to comprehend and he just decides he must discount the truth because it's too much for him to accept. Communism is totalitarian, Islam is totalitarian. They both DO dominate minds and hearts of hundreds of millions across national boundaries. He doesn't explain why Islamofacism must appeal across religious boundaries...isn't 1.3 Billion muslims a large enough base to draw from?! And even then, the Left in the US are quickly getting into bed with the Islamofacists, probably because they don't see the danger anymore than ZB does, as well as the fact that they hate Christians more than they fear the terrorists. Their icons such as Michael Moore say there is no terrorist threat.

30 posted on 12/04/2005 7:54:52 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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