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Desecration flap roils Delta art show
Record Columnist ^ | 12/03/05 | MICHAEL FITZGERALD

Posted on 12/02/2005 10:54:11 PM PST by Pikamax

Time again for "Self-Appointed Censor," today starring Muslim students at San Joaquin Delta College and their student imam.

Many Muslim students are upset over an artwork in the current show, "My Country, Right or Left: Artists Respond to the State of the Union," at Delta's L.H. Horton art gallery.

Called "Kalashnikov Jihad," the work by local artist John Lechner is a life-sized ceramic Kalashnikov assault rifle wrapped in pages of flowing Arabic script from the Quran.

The biting point of which, Lechner said, is "that religion is being used as weapon. That the loudest voices that we hear from the Islamic community are the terrorists and the radicals."

That's been said before, but not using pages of the Quran, at least not at Delta. And a procession of mostly male, obviously perturbed, Muslim students marching through the gallery doesn't like it, said gallery director William Wilson.

Many demand the artwork be taken down, some loudly, Wilson said. One interrupted Wilson's art talk. Another intruded upon a private business mixer held at the gallery.

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"He said the Muslim community had to resist this or they'll be relegated to the treatment the American Indian or African-American community has received in this county," Wilson recounted.

Mohammed Al-Otoum, who identified himself to Wilson as a full-time student and an imam, or mosque leader, also complained.

Saying "defacing the Quran" was "unacceptable," Al-Otoum asked that the work be removed from the exhibition; that the Quran pages be separated from the artwork and given to him, "to burn and bury them according to Islamic tradition"; and that officials arrange a private meeting between the artist and a student Muslim leader, according to Wilson, who documented the complaint.

Other students also asked for Lechner's phone number, e-mail address and home address, Wilson said.

Al-Otoum declined to comment, except to say it was Wilson's choice to write up his objection and launch an official complaint process.

The twist here is that the main objection for many is not the artwork's message but the destruction -- some say "desecration" -- of Islam's holy book. It's a sore point at Delta, where last year a Quran was found in a toilet.

But the message rankles, too. "I think it's pretty much saying that Islam teaches terrorism," objected Malik Bayanzay, president of the Islamic Student Association. That's a distortion of Quranic teaching, he said.

Bayanzay raised a couple of points: Many Americans support a flag-burning amendment, don't they? And where are the artworks desecrating the Bible or the Talmud?

Basim Elkarra, executive director of the Council on Islamic-American Relations' Sacramento chapter, added that, given the ongoing Lodi terror investigation, "rising Islamophobia" is a concern in the Stockton area.

Delta's president, Raul Rodriguez, listened to student concerns but took a firm stand against removing "Kalashnikov Jihad."

"You don't bow down to pressure like this," Rodriguez said. "You have to respect the right of the artist to express his idea. We're not going to censor anything here."

It's important for students to understand the purpose of academic freedom: to present a range of ideas so students learn the critical-thinking skills to sort them all out, Rodriguez said.

The opposite of critical thinking is allowing only one point of view. "And that's how fanatics are created," Rodriguez said. "And that's dangerous."

When one student rep intimated some Muslim students might take things into their own hands, Rodriguez responded resolutely.

"I told him I hope they don't do that, because there would be some very serious consequences. The students would be arrested. They would be expelled. And they would be branded terrorists."

The right way to object is with Islam awareness days and speakers who clear up misconceptions about Islam, Rodriguez said.

Or with equally pointed art. Have at it. Ironically, any shouting and saber-rattling tends to vindicate Lechner, whose artwork suggests a segment of contemporary Islam cannot reconcile religiosity with modern secular institutions and principles.

The reconciliation begins by conceding that art has the right to offend. Even desecrate.


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To: USF

HERE 'TIS!

21 posted on 12/03/2005 12:01:29 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

22 posted on 12/03/2005 12:10:41 AM PST by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: Recombinant
You may only applaud this if you can also abide seeing a crucifix in a jar of piss.

And that becomes possible once you learn the important lesson about being a tolerant and rational human being. And that lesson is this:

A work of "art" that places a crucifix in a jar of urine says nothing about the crucifix (or the jar or the urine for that matter). But it does speak volumes, and none of it good, about the "artist" who put it there.

Until the muslim faithful learn this lesson, and so long as they do stupid things like threaten John Lechner (or worse) or try to censor him, then works of art like Kalashnikov Jihad actually do say something about Islam.

23 posted on 12/03/2005 12:19:21 AM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: ThirstyMan

"What are we going to do with them anyways?"

Remember Ferdinand and Isabel?

El Cid, where are you when we need you?


24 posted on 12/03/2005 12:28:17 AM PST by dsc
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To: Squeako

Hey thanks, I like yours better 'cos it's bigger!

(one kalashnikov to go wrapped in something appropriate)


26 posted on 12/03/2005 12:44:39 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: USF; Fred Nerks; ariamne; jan in Colorado; Former Dodger; Dark Skies

Further evidence that islam is the Religion Of Piss...

and its adherents a bunch of wanking little pissants with their undies wadded rather thoroughly and permanently.

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced - let's get it on!"


27 posted on 12/03/2005 12:53:23 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Pikamax
Ironically, any shouting and saber-rattling tends to vindicate Lechner, whose artwork suggests a segment of contemporary Islam cannot reconcile religiosity with modern secular institutions and principles.

LOL! We may get to see some heads explode. Oh, wait, that is what the radicals do isn't it?

28 posted on 12/03/2005 12:53:28 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: USF

MOHAMMAD, THE KORAN AND TERRORISM:

Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
Ishaq:326 “If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah’s enemies.”
Qur’an 8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughtered in the land.”
Ishaq:588 “When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.”
Tabari IX:42 “We have been dealt a situation from which there is no escape. You have seen what Muhammad has done. Arabs have submitted to him and we do not have the strength to fight. You know that no herd is safe from him. And no one even dares go outside for fear of being terrorized.”
Ishaq:326 “Allah said, ‘No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.’ Muhammad said, ‘I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.’”
Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Qur’an 7:3 “Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them.”
Ishaq:510 “When the Apostle looked down on Khaybar he told his Companions, ‘O Allah, Lord of the Devils and what into error they throw, and Lord of the winds and what they winnow, we ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.’ He used to say this of every town he raided.”
Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer [Prayer of Fear] near Khaybar when it was still dark. He said, ‘Allahu-Akbar!’ [Allah is Greatest] Khaybar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a hostile nation to fight, then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned.’ Then the inhabitants came out running on their roads. The Prophet had their men killed; their children and woman were taken as captives.”
Bukhari:V9B87N127 “The Prophet said, ‘I have been given the keys of eloquent speech and given victory with terror.’”
Ishaq:517 “Khaybar was stormed by the Apostle’s squadron, fully armed, powerful and strong. It brought certain humiliation with Muslim men in its midst. We attacked and they met their doom. Muhammad conquered the Jews in fighting that day as they opened their eyes to our dust.”
Tabari VIII:116/Ishaq:511 “So Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home. The Messenger took some people captive, including Safiyah and her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself.”
Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The Prophet had their men killed, their children and woman taken captive.”
Tabari VIII:129 “After the Messenger had finished with the Khaybar Jews, Allah cast terror into the hearts of the Jews in Fadak when they received news of what Allah had brought upon Khaybar. Fadak became the exclusive property of Allah’s Messenger.”
Tabari VIII:133 “The raiding party went to Tha’labah. One of Muhammad’s slaves, said, ‘Prophet, I know where Tha’labah can be taken by surprise.’ So Muhammad sent him with 130 men. They raided the town and drove off camels and sheep, bringing them back to Medina.”
Tabari VIII:138 “Muhammad carried arms, helmets, and spears. He led a hundred horses, appointing Bahir to be in charge of the weapons and Maslamah to be in charge of the horses. When the Quraysh received word of this, it frightened them.”
Qur’an 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.”
Qur’an 59:2 “It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning…they shall taste the torment of Fire.”
Qur’an 33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy—a fierce slaughter—murdered, a horrible murdering.”
Tabari VIII:143 “In this year a twenty-four man raiding party led by Shuja went to the Banu Amir. He launched a raid on them and took camels and sheep. The shares of booty came to fifteen camels for each man. Also a raid led by Amr went to Dhat. He set out with fifteen men. He encountered a large force whom he summoned to Islam. They refused to respond so he killed all of them.”
Bukhari:V4B52N256 “The Prophet passed by and was asked whether it was permissible to attack infidels at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, ‘Their women and children are from them.’”
Tabari IX:20 “The captives of Hunayn, along with their possessions, were brought to the Messenger. He ordered that their captives, animals, and their possessions be taken to Ji’ranah and held there in custody.”
Ishaq:576 “Allah and His servant overwhelmed every coward. Allah honored us and made our religion victorious. We were glorified and destroyed them all. Allah humiliated them in the worship of Satan. By what our Apostle recites from the Book and by our swift horses, I liked the punishment the infidels received. Killing them was sweeter than drink. We galloped among them panting for the spoil. With our loud-voiced army, the Apostle’s squadron advanced into the fray.”
Ishaq:580 “Our strong warriors obey his orders to the letter. By us Allah’s religion is undeniably strong. You would think when our horses gallop with bits in their mouths that the sounds of demons are among them. The day we trod down the unbelievers there was no deviation or turning from the Apostle’s order. During the battle the people heard our exhortations to fight and the smashing of skulls by swords that sent heads flying. We severed necks with a warrior’s blow. Often we have left the slain cut to pieces and a widow crying alas over her mutilated husband. ’Tis Allah, not man we seek to please.”
Tabari IX:122 “Muhammad sent Uyaynah to raid The Banu Anbar. They killed some people and took others captive. Asma was one of the women taken prisoner.”
Tabari IX:123 “Muhammad sent an expedition to Ghalib and to the land of the Banu Murrah. The raid on Amr and Abi was sent to the valley of Idam. Another by Aslami was sent to Ghabah. And Abd al-Rahman was ordered by the Messenger to lead an army to the seashore.”
Tabari IX:69 “He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us.”
Bukhari:V5B59N516 “When Allah’s Apostle fought or raided people we raised our voices saying, ‘Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’”
Tabari VII:10 “In Ramadhan, seven months after the Hijrah, Muhammad entrusted a white war banner to Hamzah with the command of thirty Emigrants. Their aim was to intercept a Quraysh caravan.”
Ishaq:281 “The Raid on Waddan was the first Maghazi [invasion]. The Expedition of Harith was second. They encountered a large number of Quraysh in the Hijaz. Abu Bakr composed a poem about the raid: ‘When we called them to the truth they turned their backs and howled like bitches. Allah’s punishment on them will not tarry. I swear by the Lord of Camels [Allah?] that I am no perjurer. A valiant band will descend upon the Quraysh which will leave women husbandless. It will leave men dead, with vultures wheeling round. It will not spare the infidels.’”
Ishaq:285 “Then the Apostle went raiding in the month of Rabi u’l-Awwal making for the Quraysh. Then he raided the Quraysh by way of Dinar.” Tabari VII:11 “In this year the Messenger entrusted to Sa’d a white war banner for the expedition to Kharrar. Sa’d said, ‘I set out on foot at the head of twenty men. We used to lie hidden by day and march at night, until we reached Kharrar on the fifth morning. The caravan had arrived in town a day before. There were sixty men with it.” Tabari VII:11 “The Messenger of Allah went out on a raid as far as Waddan, searching for Quraysh.”
Tabari VII:15 “Expeditions Led by Allah’s Messenger: In this year, according to all Sira writers, the Messenger personally led the Ghazwa of Alwa. [A Ghazwa is an Islamic Invasion in Allah’s Cause consisting of an army unit led by the Prophet himself.] He left Sa’d in command of Medina. On this raid his banner was carried by Hamzah. He stayed out for fifteen days and then returned to Medina. The Messenger went on a Ghazwa at the head of two hundred of his companions in October, 623 and reached Buwat. His intention was to intercept a Quraysh caravan with a hundred men and twenty-five hundred camels.”
Ishaq:286 “Meanwhile the Apostle sent Sa’d on the raid of Abu Waqqas. The Prophet only stayed a few nights in Medina before raiding Ushayra and then Kurz.”
Bukhari:V5B57N51 “The Apostle said, ‘Tomorrow I will give the flag to a man whose leadership Allah will use to grant a Muslim victory.”
Bukhari:V5B59N569 “I fought in seven Ghazwat battles along with the Prophet and fought in nine Maghazi raids in armies dispatched by the Prophet.”

AND THAT'S JUST THE HALF OF IT!

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes1.html#terrorism


29 posted on 12/03/2005 12:54:08 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Pikamax

The "All I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9 11" poster is a perfect fit for this thread.

Anyone know how to post it here?

It's good enough for an art show too.


30 posted on 12/03/2005 12:56:07 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

You do have such a delightful way with words...and so visual!


31 posted on 12/03/2005 12:58:37 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Balding_Eagle

call on backhoe to post it for you, it's his signature.


32 posted on 12/03/2005 1:00:17 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Pikamax
Something easily overlooked:

"You don't bow down to pressure like this," Rodriguez said. "You have to respect the right of the artist to express his idea. We're not going to censor anything here."

Good for him. I hope he stays safe from the radical Muslims.

33 posted on 12/03/2005 1:02:40 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: backhoe

Your All I needed to know about Islam poster is needed!


34 posted on 12/03/2005 1:04:38 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Your All I needed to know about Islam poster is needed!

It's more than a poster...

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

35 posted on 12/03/2005 1:39:48 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: Pikamax

+


36 posted on 12/03/2005 2:08:49 AM PST by Liberty Valance (- oh, and Merry Christmas!)
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To: Pikamax
Traditionally people were converted to Islam through the use of swords, not automatic weapons. I can see why they're upset.

/sarcasm
37 posted on 12/03/2005 2:33:27 AM PST by Pipeline (Choose your teachers carefully.)
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To: goldstategop
"I think it's pretty much saying that Islam teaches terrorism," objected Malik Bayanzay, president of the Islamic Student Association. That's a distortion of Quranic teaching, he said.

AND I'LL KILL ANY INFIDEL WHO DISAGREES WITH ME! stated Bayanzay....
38 posted on 12/03/2005 2:49:07 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Gordongekko909

Exactly.


39 posted on 12/03/2005 3:32:25 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Pikamax

It is okay to put a crucifix in a jar of urine.


40 posted on 12/03/2005 3:37:37 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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