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Soldier's family cries with Bush
Rocky Mountain News ^ | November 30, 2005 | David Montero

Posted on 11/29/2005 11:56:53 PM PST by jmc1969

For about 20 minutes Tuesday, the MacKenzie family met privately with President Bush as he offered sympathy and listened to stories about Pfc. Tyler MacKenzie, a 20-year-old solider killed in Iraq earlier this month by a roadside bomb.

"We cried, and I had to pull out some Kleenex and give it to everyone else," Tyler's grandmother Mary MacKenzie said.

"I had to give some to the president, too, because he didn't have any."

Both David and Julie MacKenzie, along with grandparents Emmett and Mary MacKenzie, saw Bush speak at the Brown Palace Hotel before the Secret Service moved them to a quiet room to meet with the president.

Emmett MacKenzie, a 75-year-old Korean War veteran, said Bush reassured them that there would be no pullout of troops until Iraqis could provide their own security.

"He said we wouldn't quit, and we told him we didn't want to quit until the job was done," Emmett MacKenzie said.

"We want to continue, and we're behind him 100 percent."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bush; fallen; maureendowd; militaryfamilies
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1 posted on 11/29/2005 11:56:54 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

I may get shouted down for saying this, but I don't like these stories about the president crying. The family does not help him by sharing this intimate detail. It may or may not be unpresidential to cry in these circumstances. But it is unpresidential to be known by the American people, and our enemies, to have cried over one dead man.


2 posted on 11/29/2005 11:59:57 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: California Patriot

You are wrong.


5 posted on 11/30/2005 12:02:10 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (You know you have bird flu if you have usual flu symptoms + desire to crap on freshly washed cars.)
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To: California Patriot
I can understand where you are coming from, however I will remind you that a much better man than President cried. "Jesus wept" is the shortest verse in the bible.
6 posted on 11/30/2005 12:02:48 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: California Patriot

I won't shout you down, but I do disagree. I don't care what our enemy thinks. If his tears are genuine then it is appropriate for him to share them with the families. The only thing that our enemies understand is strength...that we can project by capturing and killing them...it really doesn't matter if president Bush sheds a tear or not...they will be killed or captured in the long run.


7 posted on 11/30/2005 12:03:17 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: California Patriot
I may get shouted down for saying this, but I don't like these stories about the president crying.

The liberals cant say that he doesnt care about the troops.

8 posted on 11/30/2005 12:05:02 AM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Talking_Mouse

Jesus was not president. His Kingdom is not of this world.


9 posted on 11/30/2005 12:06:02 AM PST by California Patriot
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To: Echo Talon

Good point. The best that has been made in response to me.

However, I would question its importance. The liberals are never stopped by what they "can't" morally or logically do, as I'm sure you know. No, they "can't" say it, in that sense. But they certainly will.


10 posted on 11/30/2005 12:07:52 AM PST by California Patriot
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To: highlander_UW

My objection is to the fact that family told the media about it. The image is an unfortunate one in political terms.


11 posted on 11/30/2005 12:08:47 AM PST by California Patriot
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To: Chevy Sales

"shuddup"

Never, Mr. or Ms. Salesman. Never.


12 posted on 11/30/2005 12:10:27 AM PST by California Patriot
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To: jmc1969
The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute.
-Maureen Dowd
13 posted on 11/30/2005 12:17:00 AM PST by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: California Patriot; StarCMC

You have missed something here..
He cries for them ALL...
Ms.B


14 posted on 11/30/2005 12:18:56 AM PST by MS.BEHAVIN
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."
-Maureen Dowd

ONLY if they share the same anal view as Sheehan and Dowd...

Semper Fi

15 posted on 11/30/2005 12:23:42 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: California Patriot
It was President Bush's choice to have met with the child's family. There is no reason on Earth that anyone cannot cry for a good cause, or a disappointment, or glee.

I'm a retired CEO, and when my wife sings a beautiful solo in Church, my eyes well up with tears of joy.

16 posted on 11/30/2005 12:26:41 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: California Patriot

President Bush has teared up in public, on camera.


17 posted on 11/30/2005 12:30:00 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

"has teared up in public, on camera."

I'm sure he has. Not good, if it was about the war.
Each additional time is an additional liability. Again, I'm not speaking of the president's manliness. Just of the political image presented.


18 posted on 11/30/2005 12:39:20 AM PST by California Patriot
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To: California Patriot
My objection is to the fact that family told the media about it. The image is an unfortunate one in political terms.

I understand what you mean. Although, one might view the balance between what little ill it might engender in other parts of the world vs what good it does to show the human and honest, genuine care he has to our side. In the balance it is at most a push...and I would submit that it's a plus. But the plus is local, not global...you would probably be correct in assuming it's a minus in the Arab world. I suppose, in the long run, I doubt there are going to be too many additional suicide bombers that volunteer over this report.

19 posted on 11/30/2005 12:41:15 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: California Patriot
Jesus was not president. His Kingdom is not of this world.

HUH? President Bush showed his human side. Christ showed his human side. I don't see anything wrong with either. It does not project weakness for Bush to shed a tear with a family. Did you read the other part where he said he would not pull out before the job is done? In other words, he is absolutely determined that the sons and daughters of these families will not have died in vain.

What is weak about that?

20 posted on 11/30/2005 12:43:48 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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