[defenderSD]

Americans would do some of the jobs that illegals do if the illegals were all deported, but there wouldn't be nearly enough American workers for many low-skilled jobs. This wouldn't affect country clubs to any extent, but it would financially devastate the lodging, construction, and agricultural industries. The resulting stagflation would destroy the GOP for the next twenty years and give Hillary or some other Democrat a free ride into the White House. In principle the guest worker program is a reasonable and practical solution to this problem, although I'm not an expert on all the details of this proposal. The idea of rounding up and deporting millions of people is also completely impractical and would be politically suicidal for the administration and the GOP.

Now please allow me to don my flame-proof suit before I hit the post button. OK, I'm ready for replies...lol.

[nicmarlo]

I would suggest that any guest-worker plan begin with the names that are at the top of the current list, long backlogged, I'm sure, of those foreign nationals who have been patiently waiting their turn in line to get in to work in the U.S.

[nicmarlo]

I would also suggest that, besides physically closing the border, than any illegal alien picked up in the U.S., as a matter of course during any crime they've committed, be deported on the spot.

In this way, there is no "extra" expense involved in trying to "round" up "ALL" the illegals; many will be picked up while they commit additional crimes while being illegally in the U.S.

[Mr. Mojo]

....but there wouldn't be nearly enough American workers for many low-skilled jobs.

That's what I once thought when I lived down in So. Cal, but after much travel I observed that the same jobs you spoke of were taken by American citizens in many other areas of the country. Sure, you gotta pay 'em more, but that's to be expected.

The idea of rounding up and deporting millions of people is also completely impractical and would be politically suicidal for the administration and the GOP.

Agreed. ....it's never going to happen. So the best plan is to persuade the illegals to deport themselves by cutting off all public (taxpayer) benefits and fining employers who hire them. ....in addition to securing the borders to the best of our ability, of course.

[Spiff]

Americans would do some of the jobs that illegals do if the illegals were all deported, but there wouldn't be nearly enough American workers for many low-skilled jobs. This wouldn't affect country clubs to any extent, but it would financially devastate the lodging, construction, and agricultural industries. The resulting stagflation would destroy the GOP for the next twenty years and give Hillary or some other Democrat a free ride into the White House. In principle the guest worker program is a reasonable and practical solution to this problem, although I'm not an expert on all the details of this proposal. The idea of rounding up and deporting millions of people is also completely impractical and would be politically suicidal for the administration and the GOP.

So, short term preservation of a party's political power is more important than national security, American jobs, and our borders, language, and culture? Forgive me if I'm not drinking that Kool-Aid with you.

[rhombus]

You won't receive flames from me. I'm way too fried from arguing the same points. Can you imagine Swat teams going from house to house, dragging families off to be deported? The Nazi comparisons we have today wouldn't even compare.

[chris1]

You don't have to "round em up". If you simply make it not welcome for them to be here illegally, they will leave.