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The Savage Nation vs. the Bushbots
www.homestead.com ^ | 7/21/05 | PAUL MULSHINE

Posted on 11/28/2005 5:03:33 PM PST by mastercylinder

Edited on 11/28/2005 5:07:49 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Al Franken and the other liberals are probably still wondering why they had such little luck in their efforts to start a talk-radio network to bash George Bush from the left. They didn't consider the obvious explanation. George Bush has his left flank nicely covered. It's on the right that he's weak.

That is the theory of Michael Savage. Savage is the most right-wing of the right-wing talkers on the national airwaves at the moment. He is based in San Francisco, but he can be heard in the New York area on WOR in the evenings. He is a welcome change from those Karl Rove clones Hush Bimbo and Sean Vanity.

"Hush Bimbo" and "Sean Vanity" are the names Savage has pinned on Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity of WABC. In doing so, he has sparked a war between the members of his "Savage Nation" (slogan: "Borders, language, culture") and the so-called "Bushbots," that sizable number of gullible Americans who can be convinced that whatever policy Bush adopts is a conservative policy.

"What makes Bush a conservative?" Savage asked when I got him on the phone the other day. "On the economy, Bush has got more governmental workers than anybody before him. He's ballooned the government."

As regards the so-called "war on terror," Savage points out that you can't win a war when you're afraid even to name the enemy.

"He's never mentioned Islamofascism," said Savage.

No, he hasn't. Even the French have been more willing to defend their borders, language and culture than Bush. He's a multiculturalist and a mushy one at that. Instead of reducing the reach of Islamic fundamentalism, Bush has managed in Iraq to get 1,700 Americans killed in a war that will create yet another Islamic republic. Just yesterday we learned that the new constitution in Iraq will incorporate sharia, Islamic law.

That's why we right-wing commentators believe the Iraq war has been the biggest blunder in America's military history. As for Bimbo and Vanity, if I may employ Savage's labels, they are simply too uneducated to realize that the Iraq war represents a failed liberal exercise in nation-building.

"There is no college in Rush. There is no college in Hannity," said Savage. "He's a high school dropout. It's like listening to an uneducated, unthinking man on the radio."

Savage has a Ph.D. from Berkeley in epidemiology, an extremely challenging field. That makes him a bit overqualified for the verbal pro-wrestling matches that make up talk radio. But it also makes him interesting.

The Bushbots don't think so. On their Web sites, they call Savage a bigot and a racist, two terms the employment of which generally indicate that the speaker is losing an argument. Savage is a hero on those Web sites that attack Bush's open-borders approach to immigration. "Rush Limbaugh is a direct link to his president, El Traitor, Senor Bush," wrote one blogger. "The invasion by illegals has been going on now for a long time."

"You are 100 percent correct," said another of Limbaugh and Hannity. "They are nothing but blind, rubber-stamping followers of El Presidente Bush."

All of this is a lot of fun if you don't take it seriously. I certainly don't. But I do find talk radio to be a good barometer of the nation's mood. And the nation is slowly figuring out that the Bush-neoconservative-Troskyite- internationalist view of foreign affairs has not worked out so swimmingly for the good old U.S. of A.

"Bush is melting down our borders and making us into a polyglot nation in which no one speaks the language," says Savage.

Savage hears a lot from people who say that any criticism of Bush is a mark of disloyalty to conservatism.

"I can't stand listening to people who want me to be a lapdog for Bush," he told me. "We're supposed to be watchdogs, not lapdogs."

As for the rest of the radio talkers, "They may as well work for the Republican Party. There's nothing interesting if you can predict what a man's going to say by just going to the GOP Web site."

He's certainly got that right. Listening to an endless rehash of Karl Rove's talking points, leavened by a few Teddy Kennedy-is-a-drunk jokes, is not very entertaining.

As for the Al Franken approach, how can a nation-building, internationalist multiculturalist get any traction by criticizing another nation-building, internationalist multiculturalist? John Kerry had that problem as well, you might have noticed.

When you attack the Bush-Rove spin from the right, however, you realize that the neocons' grand social experiment has been tried most visibly in Iraq and has failed most visibly there. People are starting to notice. Eventually even the Bushbots may get a clue.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bush; bushbot; duplicatepost; hehasitright; kook; savage; talkradio; weinerbots
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To: Kimmers

I know :)


21 posted on 11/28/2005 5:14:05 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jveritas
Michael Savage....The Herbal Years.

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22 posted on 11/28/2005 5:14:46 PM PST by jdm
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To: mastercylinder
I am more than a little tired of self-proclaimed experts, on the left and the right, who denounce those who disagree with their divinely appointed and thoroughly unassailable opinions as "robots" and "mindless." Believe it or not, there are intelligent people in this world that can and do disagree with Michael Savage and Michael Moore.
23 posted on 11/28/2005 5:14:57 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: cripplecreek

Savage is totally in love with himself. He reeks of vanity, self-promotion and imagines himself an intellectual giant. I can't listen to his voice without wanting to take a shower.


24 posted on 11/28/2005 5:14:59 PM PST by caffe (Hey, dems, you finally have an opportunity to vote!!!)
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To: caffe

You have my sympathies little lady.


25 posted on 11/28/2005 5:16:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Most of those who criticize Michael Savage do so because they are just so darn embarrassed on what Bush has done, and the very accurate comments Savage makes about those Bush actions. The more embarrassed the "lapdogs" become, the more they criticize Savage

Gee how much are you going to charge for that and how much does weiner(savage) get back as a kickback.

26 posted on 11/28/2005 5:16:17 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

27 posted on 11/28/2005 5:16:17 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: Stepan12

I stand corrected. It just took 4 years, but he did.


28 posted on 11/28/2005 5:16:52 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Michael Savage tells it the way it is.

yes he does

29 posted on 11/28/2005 5:19:48 PM PST by mastercylinder (Evolution: Taking care of those too stupid to take care of themselves.)
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To: jdm

"Some call this......"

He didn't own the remark. Savage is quite correct. It's a demure.


30 posted on 11/28/2005 5:19:53 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: cripplecreek
I agree...........he is a bit extreme, but his common sense can't be dismissed. "Borders, Language, and culture." Without borders their are no nations. Multiculturalism is killing western Europe. One common language........that's pretty obvious. I also love Savage's view of the homeless and drug problem.
31 posted on 11/28/2005 5:20:18 PM PST by fisherman90814
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To: mastercylinder
Savage, right wing? Thats an insult to right wingers. He is more a ding-a-ling. Seriously, he should follow the instructions on his medication more carefully. Sanity is achievable, even for Savage.
32 posted on 11/28/2005 5:20:26 PM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

yes......Savage always has some very salient points but he sometimes goes so far overboard with his inane remarks that the message is lost in his vitriol....being in the Bay Area, I used to be a big fan...but he has become much too abrasive....too bad for a man that by all other accounts is a genius.......


33 posted on 11/28/2005 5:20:46 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: mastercylinder; HitmanNY

Michael Savage is tolerable for about 15 minutes. He needs to take his Meds on a more regular basis instead of the herbal crap he takes.


34 posted on 11/28/2005 5:21:31 PM PST by Clemenza (Ticking Away the Moments that Make up the Dog Day)
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To: Clemenza

SAVAGE!!!!!


35 posted on 11/28/2005 5:22:00 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: mastercylinder

While I agree with much of what he says, the guy is, plain and simple, an a$$hole. Major league.


36 posted on 11/28/2005 5:22:44 PM PST by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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To: mastercylinder

Me three


37 posted on 11/28/2005 5:22:50 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: jdm

LOL......


38 posted on 11/28/2005 5:23:08 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: mastercylinder

Michael Savage resonates.

He resonates by sticking his head up his butt and listening to the echo of his own voice.

Weiner Nation is off the coast of Antarctica.


40 posted on 11/28/2005 5:24:06 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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