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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 27 November 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 27 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/27/2005 5:10:25 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, November 27th, 2005

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; Whit Ayres and Doug Schoen, political pollsters.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and John Warner, R-Va.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Authors James Reston Jr., Ellen Fitzpatrick, Joseph Ellis and Stephen Carter.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraq's national security adviser; Henry Kissinger, former secretary of state; Zbigniew Brzezinski, former national security adviser; Peggy Noonan, author; Nathaniel Fick, retired Marine captain and author; Evan Wright, Rolling Stone editor and author.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; facethenation; foxnewssunday; guests; johnwarner; josephellis; kissinger; lateedition; lineup; meetthepress; stephencarter; sunday; talkshows; thisweek
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To: Reagan Man
I really don't know how to respond to such silly, ignorant and juvenile drivel

Bye. When you cannot repond to the facts with anything but a childish personal attack, YOU LOST THE ARGUEMENT.

481 posted on 11/27/2005 12:35:03 PM PST by MNJohnnie (To be a "Peace Now Democrat" is to be Pro Mass Murder/Rape/Torture)
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To: Miss Marple; All

The Free Republic Sunday Morning Talk show featuring moderator Miss Marple, with guest commentators .....
mnjohnnie
doughty one
maica
reagan man
morgan in denver
maggrief
seattle conservative
rodguy
alas babylon
et al

WOW, the ratings would rocket!
ps: I'd cook for all y'all---lunch today: breaded pork tenderloin; mashed potatoes w/roasted garlic; tomato salad and reeses peanut butter bars for desert.


482 posted on 11/27/2005 12:35:05 PM PST by chgomac
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To: Miss Marple

I have to disagree on having Condi on so much for a number of reasons. One reason is she is not Like Warren Christopher or Maddie Albright, she does not sleep or bluff her way through the job. Condi is actually working very hard traveling all over the globe making a difference, making us new friends and really accomplishing things,and she still accompanies the President on all his overseas trips, and many other important meetings. Another problem with when the MSM wants the Biggies in the GOP and the Administration on their shows is just to keep harping at controversial subjects even if they are way in the past. It is a chance for Russert or other DNC cronies to ask a thousand ways from Sunday questions that they have been itching to get at for a while, even if that GOP leader or member of the Administration has nothing at all to do with the Controversy. They are so stupid they will ask Gale Norton about tax Cuts (Russert's obsession), Gitmo torture, etc. just to pound at the Administration.


483 posted on 11/27/2005 12:35:06 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: jayef

Well I guess you and I ask a lot of some people, LOL. No, you're right on target.


484 posted on 11/27/2005 12:37:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: sinbad17

"...shouldn't it be "worthy"??? "

Nope, us paeons ain't got the world 'sperience to understand. But we are not worthy either!


485 posted on 11/27/2005 12:37:21 PM PST by lawdude (Does a Paramecium beat its flagella?)
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To: DoughtyOne

"I'm not sure what the exact focus was for the 27% poll I mentioned, but it was valid..."

You don't know what the poll was about but you know it was valid? How do you know that? In fact, I've seen a great number of reasons to cast doubt on the validity of most opinion polls out there. In the past several months I've seen bias in the "set up" wording for polls, in the questions themselves, and -- given the vitriol against Bush among many pollsters themselves -- it would not surprise me one bit if the deck was being intentionally stacked.

I'm a social scientist myself and I would never allow a grad student to engage in some of the polling tactics I've seen of late.

I'm not saying all is rosy for Bush, but I'll bet that if the 2004 election were held next week, Bush would beat Kerry again.


486 posted on 11/27/2005 12:41:06 PM PST by zook
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To: MNJohnnie
You have a point, but that is the House, which is more in touch with constituents than the Senate. The Senate showed their true colors by voting on that ridiculous Warner amendment, which, if I remember, you were exptremely angry about.

Here is the problem with the polls, which I think are bogus. The ability to trumpet those polls gives the democrats a talking point with which they can convince the mushy undecideds about where to place their support. This is also known as the lemming response. Without a counter to the poll talk, we are letting the democrats spout off like they have some sort of invisible majority (which they don't).

I want the media to cover the troops and the success of the war. They won't do it as long as they can put on a few mush-mouth senators who are cowed by the polls and have an ax to grind with the President.

I want the President to get the credit for his efforts NOW, not when they are watching the caisson roll down Pennsylvania Avenue 30 years from now. With all that he has dealt with over the last 5 years, I believe he is entitled to some public praise, and unless we figure out how to get the press to let up, we aren't going to see it.

No one is saying we have to believe the Rats. Most of us don't really believe the polls. We are concerned about the people who DO believe them, because all they see are a few TV stories.

487 posted on 11/27/2005 12:41:07 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: zook

Lets take the worst case scenario and state that 27% poll was falsified. Okay, would that lessen the need to have a well-versed person from our side there to rebut it, or increase that need?

I think you'd agree it would be best to have someone there that was prepared to rebut it. Doesn't that validate exactly what I've been trying to promote?


488 posted on 11/27/2005 12:43:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: MNJohnnie; Reagan Man; DoughtyOne
Bye. When you cannot repond to the facts with anything but a childish personal attack, YOU LOST THE ARGUEMENT.

Typical. When the going gets tough, and he gets challenged, he doesnt want to play anymore. MN-your behavior last week was disgraceful. You are being called on it this week. And now you dont want to play anymore. Perhaps needlepoint will be more suitable for you, as politics is not for the squeamish..

489 posted on 11/27/2005 12:44:11 PM PST by cardinal4 ("One man gone and another to go....")
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To: Miss Marple; All
Just heard on Sky News that they have named the British man kidnapped he is Norman Kembler he was kidnapped along with 3 other I believe aid workers.

Kembler is English, the others are 2 Canadian and one American. Apparently the English man is from a Baptist organization who is opposed to intervention in Iraq.
490 posted on 11/27/2005 12:46:59 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: DoughtyOne

I totally agree with you that the Republicans have been limp washcloths. One thing that polls do measure well is the impact of a powerful ad campaign (even one packed with lies) on the public (mostly the non-voting public). If Rep. senators and congressmen (and, sadly, Bush) had been meeting their "public relations" responsibility over the past year, there'd be no question about the polls right now.


491 posted on 11/27/2005 12:48:03 PM PST by zook
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To: samantha; snugs
That's a good point, samantha. Rumsfeld does better with that type of attack, as when he refuted the question of whether or not he had been the one to leak Valerie Plame's name. Condi isn't as good at that yet, plus, as you say, she is very busy.

As snugs said, they probably can't field the top names every week, or the impact would be deluted. So, we are back to the question of how to get the articulate, pro-troops senators onto the shows. Heck, unless you watch Fox, you would never see Norm Coleman, and look at all he has uncovered about the Oil for Food scandal!

Maybe Coleman and Inhofe and Kyl should start running around with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. It seems they get much more press than the President. HA!

492 posted on 11/27/2005 12:48:05 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: snugs
Well, it certainly isn't a Southern Baptist organization.

I smell another set-up, like those Japanese anti-war people who wre "kidnapped."

493 posted on 11/27/2005 12:50:57 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: zook

Thanks Zook. I agree.


494 posted on 11/27/2005 12:51:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Miss Marple

Not sure all Sky News are saying is that the Foreign Office have advised his family.


495 posted on 11/27/2005 12:52:21 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Miss Marple

I made a mistake a few years ago when I called Kennedy's (the Swimmer) office and went on a rant about all the rotten democrats. When the lightweight Aide said something like "you don't like any Democrat do you"? I thought for a second and said "well having been a democrat most of my adult life, I know what good dems used to be and the only one I can stand is Evan Bayh". That was right after he stuck up for one aspect of the Pro-life movement like Partial Birth or something like that and the NOW gang beat the hell out of him verbally. After he recovered emotionally from their assault he has been a good little lefty ever since. I have seen my quote about Bayh come back to haunt me since that day many moons ago. I cannot stand him now.


496 posted on 11/27/2005 12:53:44 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I've started a seperate thread after stumbling across the transcript for CNNs Reliable Sources. They had Krugman, among others, discussing how EVIL Bush is and how the biased (my word)coverage of Iraq was justified. It was so bad I felt it needed it's own thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1529424/posts


497 posted on 11/27/2005 12:54:37 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Just mythoughts
Good stuff.
But as I posted on the thread this is the same ol' rat mantra, copy what we do and claim it as their ideas. Might have worked a few times for Bubba in the past but won't work now.We are there to counter their every move.
498 posted on 11/27/2005 12:55:19 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: cardinal4

Well it's no fun having to respond to a number of people who disagree with you. It's tough to keep up, for one thing.

Parts of my arguements may have been off the mark, but that doesn't mean I'm going to abandon my premise or be pulled into a heated discussion off topic.

We need better prepared representation in public.

If MNJonnie disagrees with that, then I'm going to object and I doubt I'll be the only one.


499 posted on 11/27/2005 12:55:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Miss Marple

Here is a link to the story

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13470572,00.html


500 posted on 11/27/2005 12:55:37 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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