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Posted on 11/26/2005 9:01:22 PM PST by rey
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Why is every person UPON CONVICTION presumed innocent by these folks?
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:01:23 PM PST
by
rey
To: rey
Anybody know the stats on race and the death penalty?
We always hear it is unfair to blacks, but I never see any statistics to prove it.
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:05:27 PM PST
by
digger48
To: digger48
I had a sociology class where they said the majority race on death row is black. You'd have to contrive a crazy conspiracy theory to explain how this is a result of racism. However, that fact alone seems enough for some to assume it's a result of it.
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:10:28 PM PST
by
Firefigher NC
(Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
To: rey
I'm happy that this guy was exonerated by DNA evidence. This new scientific advance has made a very good criminal justice system far,far better.It greatly lessens the chances of guilty people getting away with crimes and it also greatly lessens the chances of the innocent being unjustly convicted.
That's just gotta fry your cookies,doesn't it Dr Hurly?
To: Gay State Conservative
I think that's the thing a lot of myopic types don't want to cope with. That is, if they accept DNA evidence as valid enough to exonerate someone (and I agree it is), they have to accept that DNA evidence is valid to incriminate someone.
As one factor (but not the only factor) in the administration of justice, if its good enough to help prove someone's innocence, then there are cases where it's good enough to help prove someone's guilt.
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:16:27 PM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
To: rey
...usually men of color I myself am a man of color. Kind of a tan, maybe mocha. Definitely not clear. Am I in danger?
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:16:47 PM PST
by
Sender
(Team Infidel USA)
To: digger48
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:21:01 PM PST
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: rey
Haven't you heard? Everyone on death row is innocent.
SARCASM OFF
To: rey
My local newspaper had a picture of deaths by race. Overwhelmingly white people, iirc. I'll try to find it.
To: rey
I actually went to a dump the death penalty web site.
Guy that was writing there said their antics for the past 20 years were not working. Public opinion on the death penalty hadn't budged.
Said what they needed to do was
1) Quit trying to show the soft fuzzy side of killers.
2) Admit that most of them really did it but they still didn't deserve to die.
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:25:30 PM PST
by
TASMANIANRED
("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets." Sgt Clay.)
To: DTwistedSisterS
See #7. Was it that article?
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:25:59 PM PST
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: Sender
"Am I in danger?"
Only if you commit a capital crime Sender. Otherwise, you're in the clear (no pun intended ;).
To: rey
Notice the subtle racism....
Since most of the imprisoned are "men of color" and most of the victims are "people of color" the only logical conclusion is that homicide of blacks should not be punished.
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:26:57 PM PST
by
TASMANIANRED
("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets." Sgt Clay.)
To: rey
The story here is that a new technique shows that someone was falsely convicted, and perhaps that the system is not as reliable as everyone wanted to believe and convicted many people falsely. I don't see what this has to do with the death penalty.
To: CarrotAndStick
yeah, it was that article.
To: rey
I cannot understand why those who are the brightest among us; many of them ardent evolution supporters cannot accept the fact that man is a flawed being. Nothing and I mean NOTHING we ever do is going to have a 100% record of success. The question in every instance from space shuttle flight to issuing prescription drugs to administering justice, including the death penalty, is what percentage of failure are we prepared to tolerate. Success is possible; even a high percentage of success is possible but perfection is not.
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posted on
11/26/2005 9:49:18 PM PST
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: digger48; Firefigher NC
They never tell you that most of the blacks on death row are there for killing OTHER blacks. For some reason, people tend to kill those of the same race.
To: rey
I dunno. Why, let's just have the killers sent in to the homes of liberals and see if they're still favor of a moratorium then. Its easy to advocate high-mined principle that costs you nothing when its not your life on the line. Yeah that's the liberal ticket; time for an open season on human beings. And these are the same people who get outraged the thought of people hunting animals. You can guess from their conduct what lives they value more. It sure ain't yours or mine. Oh - and can you say Terri Schiavo? Where was the liberal moratorium on the death penalty when she was starved to death while liberals looked the other way? Truly, for the murderer-loving Left, some lives are more equal than others.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
11/27/2005 12:21:07 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: LauraleeBraswell
For some reason, people tend to kill those of the same race.
At a guess, I'd say it's because people tend to associate with others of the same race, and to kill people they know.
To: rey
"...proven innocent by DNA evidence..."
Proven innocent or they came up with some DNA that wasn't his and after so long couldn't get enough evidence/witnesses together to retry him?
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posted on
11/27/2005 9:00:02 AM PST
by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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