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Teenager with peanut allergy dies after a kiss
CTV ^ | November 25, 2005

Posted on 11/26/2005 12:21:14 PM PST by EveningStar

A Quebec teenager with a peanut allergy has died after kissing her boyfriend who had eaten a peanut butter sandwich hours earlier.

(Excerpt) Read more at ctv.ca ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: allergies; anaphylacticshock; death; foodallergies; kissofdeath; peanutallergy; peanutbutter; peanuts
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To: EveningStar
Very Sad. My condolences to the family.



How does someone with such extreme reaction ( bees,peanuts etc.)ever live to discover they have an adverse reaction. Seems the first time they encounter the substance would be their last.


Anyone?
61 posted on 11/26/2005 1:50:02 PM PST by RedMonqey (Life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid.)
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To: 4mycountry
I think that if your kid has peanut allergies that bad, you don't go telling the school to ban peanuts -- you homeschool your kid or get him a private tutor. Telling an entire school system / community to ban any contact with peanuts is overkill.

Of course. You don't turn an entire society on its head to provide marginal, illusory benefits to microscopic special-interest groups. No matter how much the leftists try.

62 posted on 11/26/2005 1:51:31 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Clara Lou

Exactly. And it's better for the kid, in terms of education and safety. A home envorinment, you can control, but putting the kid into a public system with hundreds of other individuals who don't have this allergy is just begging for trouble.


63 posted on 11/26/2005 1:53:25 PM PST by 4mycountry (Now that's just freaking freaky.)
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To: dvwjr; Sonny M
Where does it stop?

For statists, it never stops. Busybody nannies spend their entire waking lives figuring out how to force others to modify their behavior.

See, for example, Republicans and democRats.

64 posted on 11/26/2005 1:54:36 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: nina0113

I checked the medical literature and did not find anything on vegans and increased allergies; on the contrary, the literature has a few studies suggesting that vegan diets can help in some autoimmune disorders such as rheumatoid arthritis. And remember, it would only be the early sensitization with soy formula that would likely make the difference.


65 posted on 11/26/2005 1:54:44 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: nina0113
If I had a child who was that allergic, I wouldn't make his life someone else's responsibility.

I agree completely--and I've got one of these odd allergies myself. My parents never demanded that the school impose restrictions on everyone else because of me. You know why? Such a thought never even crossed their minds. If someone had suggested it to them, they would have rejected it as unthinkable.

Things sure have changed since I was a kid. But the fact remains that it is my responsibility to read labels and ask about ingredients when I am in a restaurant. The responsibility of the food industry or anyone else ends with accurate disclosure. It's not their job to insulate me from my allergy when that means denying a perfectly legal class of foods to people who have a right to eat it.

66 posted on 11/26/2005 1:54:45 PM PST by freespirited
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To: HitmanNY
Wasn't this on an episode of CSI?

Yes - it was in a jury room. Everyone hated this one juror, and in an effort to make him sick and get him off the jury, someone put peanut butter in his soup (knowing he was allergic to peanuts). He died instead.

67 posted on 11/26/2005 1:54:56 PM PST by American72 (Sick of Democrats)
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To: Kjobs
Why the hell are so many people suddenly allergic to peanuts? This was not a problem when I was a kid.

Every kid needs to eat a pound of dirt.

Kids don't play dangerous games outside anymore.

68 posted on 11/26/2005 1:55:47 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: EveningStar

Ouch.

That's about the worst thing I've ever heard.


69 posted on 11/26/2005 1:56:09 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Pharmboy
It might have something to do with peanut products used in more and more foods which can cause sensitization, esp. when fed to younger children. Just speculation...

That, and the fact that diagnosis and treatment have gotten a lot better. I have to wonder how many unexplained deaths of children in years past were actually peanut or other allergies. If children are exposed to peanuts at an early age, does that cause the allergy, or were those deaths written off as SIDS before?

70 posted on 11/26/2005 1:58:11 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: American72

AS the mother of a child with a very severe allergy to peanuts (he just spent 24 hours in the hosp after getting hit in the face with a peanut butter cookie at a food fight), I do not expect schools to become peanut free. What I have worked out with schools is that there is a peanut free table in the cafeteria, where only people with no peanuts in their lunch may sit.
Incidentally, when he was in elementary school, the cafeteria did go peanut free after my son had to be airlifted from a cookie that was inadvertently placed on his tray. I suspect more school cafeterias will go to this
This is a real problem, and these kids can die after just touching something that has touched peanuts. I think kids can cont to enjoy their pbj at school and reasonable accomodations can be made for allergic kids--I do not dictate to others what they can do, just ask for understanding and cooperation. I think this can solve most problems.


71 posted on 11/26/2005 2:00:37 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: ReignOfError

No--SIDS and severe peanut allergies occur at different ages. Asthma and peanut anaphylaxis have increased in absolute terms. No question. See above post about soy bean formula possibly being the sensitizing culprit.


72 posted on 11/26/2005 2:02:40 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: RedMonqey
It's not a sure death sentence. Most of the time, you just get sick, sometimes quite sick. If your first reaction killed you, then yes, you would not learn from it.

How sick you get, and to what level, depends on lots of factors.

So one day you eat a candybar, and your mouth gets itchy and you get a few hives. You may or may not think that's alarming.

Another time, your face swells up, and so does your tongue, and you go to ER for shots and monitoring. This may have gone away on its own, but now an MD tells you you (or your 2 yr old) that you are PA- peanut allergic.

The reaction is not always swelling. Your blood pressure can drop drastically enough to kill you(that's the shock in anaphylactic shock).

PA people can have several reactions per year until they learn how to avoid peanuts. It's a percentage thing- one of those reactions someday is gonna get you if you don't learn to make the changes in your life (or teach your PA kid) that will keep you safer.
73 posted on 11/26/2005 2:05:29 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Mom MD
Touching peanut butter makes him sick??
74 posted on 11/26/2005 2:07:00 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou; Mom MD

Yes, contact with peanut can cause reactions.

If you leave little dabs of peanut on a tabletop, there are people that will get a rash, or hives, or even a fullblown allergic reaction from the micrograms they pick up when they touch he table after you.

There are other alergens just as bad, like shellfish or tree nut.


75 posted on 11/26/2005 2:09:36 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Actually, once you have a reaction, every subsequent reaction will get worse. Also teaching avoidance behavoirs helps, but the last data I saw said that 75% of adults making a good effort to avoid peanuts still had a reaction over a 5 yr span. THe problem is you can't avoid the behavior of others.
The restaurant worker who cuts your sandwich with a knife used on something with peanuts in it. The spoon set on the counter next to the peanut butter, etc. Or like my son, the food fight where you get hit with something with peanuts in it. The bottom line is if you have a peanut allergy you need to be vigilant and ready 24/7. This is very difficult to teach teenagers, believe me. I do agree most deaths are people who either do not have their epinephrine with them, or who do not use it in a timely matter. But you can never let your guard down
And yes, there is the rare case where you do everything right and still have a fatal outcome. I expect my son to live a normal lifespan, but I spend a lot of time on my knees over this one, because ultimately only God can keep him safe.


76 posted on 11/26/2005 2:11:52 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Clara Lou

Yes. Touching the cookie in the food fight bought him 24 hours in the hospital, and this was not one of his severe reactions.


77 posted on 11/26/2005 2:13:17 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Clara Lou

Just walking into one of those bars that have buckets of peanuts on the counter can kill a highly-allergic person. Just breathing the dust. I got in an argument with an anti-smoking zealot one time about this - he admitted that while he couldn't stand to walk into a smoky bar, at least he wouldn't drop right down dead, the way a peanut-allergic person would in a peanut bar.


78 posted on 11/26/2005 2:14:25 PM PST by nina0113
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To: Sonny M
It's just racism.

It's only because a black man invented peanut butter.

79 posted on 11/26/2005 2:14:58 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Pharmboy

So it's possible that in years past, before soy formula was available, the babies might have died from "failure to thrive" and wouldn't have become allergic to peanuts?


80 posted on 11/26/2005 2:15:33 PM PST by Amelia
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