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Thanksgiving Dinner Family Debate: Liberals vs. Conservatives
National Ledger ^ | 11-23-05 | Chris Davis - Commentary

Posted on 11/23/2005 9:37:58 AM PST by smoothsailing

Thanksgiving Dinner Family Debate: Liberals vs. Conservatives

By Chris Davis

Nov 23, 2005

Thanksgiving is here!  Many people are preparing for that feast of turkey, dressing and pumpkin pie.  Some are packing clothes and making plans for their flight or drive.  Others, though, are spending time with friends and family, recalling the fond memories of better days during their childhoods.

But most conservatives, however, are gearing up for that once a year visit from their liberal Uncle Phil or Aunt Sally.  Amidst the conversation, they'll be forced—through dirty looks from their spouses or a gentle hand placed on the knee—to ignore the claims of the illegitimate war in Iraq and on terror.  They will grit their teeth when their liberal relative drifts down memory lane and proclaims that Franklin D. Roosevelt was the greatest President of the United States.

They'll choke down peas, dressing and turkey as they hear the same old refrains about how everything wrong in America is Bush's fault.  They'll have that extra glass of wine when their liberal counterparts start spouting about how Roosevelt would've saved America as he did with the New Deal.  They'll be subjected to endless tales of wastelands and soup lines, and how, in FDR's infinite wisdom, he brought prosperity to the country.

And when conservatives have stomached enough, they'll remind their liberal relatives how in the first year of the New Deal, Roosevelt proposed spending $10 billion while revenues were only $3 billion, and how, between 1933 and 1936, government expenditures rose by more than 83 percent as federal debt skyrocketed by 73 percent.  

They'll remind their relatives about how Roosevelt created the first entitlement in 1935 with Social Security, and how he strangled a free market economy with a minimum wage law in 1938, hurting the very people he was proposing to help: the poor, the unskilled and minorities, by putting them out of work.  They'll attempt to explain how Roosevelt raised income taxes on corporate dividends, and they'll also remind their relatives why, if F.D.R. was such a great president, it took him so long to bring the country out of depression.

And in their Thanksgiving struggle, conservatives will fail to convince their relatives, because in their relatives' minds, FDR's honor will not be impugned.  He was far too great a president and is not to be besmirched on this day of Thanksgiving, a day when there are millions of needy poor in America.  They'll have another glass of wine as their beloved liberal lectures them on Bush spending more money on Iraq children than American children.  They'll keep harmony until their relatives have gone home and they return to their jobs.

They'll go to work and drive America like they always do.  They'll perform at their very best while their liberal coworkers complain about how their greedy boss is sticking it to them and how he or she isn't paying them enough.  They'll advance up the corporate ladder, and get job after job done while their liberal coworkers are worrying about a flu pandemic.

Conservatives, in their indefatigable diligence, will keep the American economy moving, advocating for more of their own money and less government intrusion.  They'll turn on their radios, log on the internet and call their favorite talk show hosts in support of America's finest that are deployed across the globe.

They'll support the war on terror, remembering the words of Patrick Henry, "If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained we must fight!"

And when the Democrats start calling for a withdrawal of troops in Iraq, conservatives will remember the words of President George Washington, "Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and show the world that a free man, contending for his liberty on his own ground, is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth."

They'll advocate for the Nativity scene as America nears Christmas.  They'll suffer through liberal indignation when a Christmas tree goes up in the middle of town.  They'll tell their children about Santa, never forgetting about the real meaning of Christmas: the birth of Jesus Christ.  

When liberals are having temper tantrums about the separation of church and state, conservatives will remember the words of John Adams, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Most of all, conservatives will remember the words of Daniel Webster, "God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it."

It is conservatives that I am thankful for on this Thanksgiving Day, November 24, 2005, these men and women that love liberty, the men and women that use the Constitution as a guide, never forgetting its principles in their daily lives, and holding their senators and congressmen's feet to the fire.

These conservatives come in all races, colors, creeds and worship different religions.  They are, at their very essence, the heart of America.  They perform their duties with unabashed vigor.  They represent the best America has to offer and keep coming back for more.  They come from all walks of life, and hold patriotism sacred.  They are never what the mainstream media covers, but are what America is and what it should always strive to be.  They personify every notion the Founding Fathers had for America.

They are represented by men like Rush Limbaugh—a man that execute liberal lies with impunity, brandishing an army of 20 million listeners.  They are also represented by men like Tom DeLay—a congressman fighting tyranny in the Travis County District Attorney's office, and by Congressman Mike Pence, trying to cut pork in a bloated budget.  

They are exemplified by women like Ann Coulter—an author that destroys liberal lies with her brand of conservative truth.  They are molded in men like David Limbaugh, fighting against the liberal persecution of Christianity, and in men like Tim Marvin, a business genius that only longs to return to the concepts of America's core: conservatism.  They are best represented in the new media by Free Republic, a forum dedicated to ending socialism and tyranny's grasp on America.

On this Thanksgiving Day, I am truly thankful for all the conservative men and women that make a difference in America.  They should be saluted for wishing to return to the concepts of the Founding Fathers.  They should be respected and admired for admonishing liberals at every turn in the road.

And they should be thanked for fighting the good fight, a fight to return to our American roots.

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Chris Davis is the author of Elective Decisions and In Defense of Liberty, two political thrillers from the Whiskey Creek Press.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: Lady Jag

So that's Tofurky huh? I'm going to club the next baby seal I see as a protest to the existence of this hippy crap.


121 posted on 11/23/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: smoothsailing; writer33

Another one outta the park, Chris!! Thanks!!

BTW - I heard an excellent quote this morning when the kids were watching Adventures from the Book of Virtues on TV...

"If you truly believe that God created all men to be free, then you must surely be willing to sacrifice your freedom and security to ensure them theirs." I couldn't help but think of all the folks over in Iraq and Afghanistan right now doing just that. Thank you!!!


122 posted on 11/23/2005 10:56:39 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: smoothsailing
See my tag line.

Still voting democrat?
You're stuck on Stupid!

123 posted on 11/23/2005 11:00:14 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (DUmmies are permanently stuck on stupid.)
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To: smoothsailing
They are represented by men like Rush Limbaugh—a man that execute liberal lies with impunity, brandishing an army of 20 million listeners. They are also represented by men like Tom DeLay—a congressman fighting tyranny in the Travis County District Attorney's office, and by Congressman Mike Pence, trying to cut pork in a bloated budget. They are exemplified by women like Ann Coulter—an author that destroys liberal lies with her brand of conservative truth.

Rush, Coulter, Delay, and Mike Pence, good company to be in.

124 posted on 11/23/2005 11:03:45 AM PST by NeoCaveman (THIRTEENTH!!!!)
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To: TX Bluebonnet
Go Dad !!! :)
125 posted on 11/23/2005 11:04:46 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: absolootezer0
i prefer my thanksgiving political debates, conservative v ultra-conservative, with a single moderate conservative thrown in for spice.

I like to throw in a libertarian for comedic value. Last year my libertarian uncle tried to tell me that our government made people disappear during the cold war. I responded, "good, it's nice to know that atleast a few of my tax dollars go for something worth while"

126 posted on 11/23/2005 11:07:01 AM PST by NeoCaveman (THIRTEENTH!!!!)
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To: dead
There will be no arguing this year, as the liberal in-laws cancelled this morning. The reason? It snowed overnight. They live in the UP and have a 4x4 truck, and still they cancelled because it snowed a couple of inches.

I won't miss them, but I'm pissed because of all the work and $$ I have gone through to prepare for their visit and prepare a nice meal for them. I also turned down other invites. Typical selfish liberals.

128 posted on 11/23/2005 11:11:37 AM PST by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: dubyaismypresident
I responded, "good, it's nice to know that atleast a few of my tax dollars go for something worth while"

Can you come over tomorrow about 2 p.m.?

129 posted on 11/23/2005 11:12:28 AM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin
Can you come over tomorrow about 2 p.m.?

You are certainly welcome. Funny thing is the weather has now made my plans to go over the river and through the woods to the folk's house tenuous at best.

130 posted on 11/23/2005 11:14:02 AM PST by NeoCaveman (THIRTEENTH!!!!)
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To: expat_panama
I just keep on passing them food.

"More stuffing?""More sweet potatoes?""More stuffing?""More bread?""More stuffing?"

Liberals love free food, and it shuts them up for a while!

(Hey, nifty boat!) :)

131 posted on 11/23/2005 11:16:41 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
This is a great article, Chris.

How did you know that my Thanksgiving Dinner will be just as you describe?
I'll follow your advise & have another glass of wine!

FRegards,
Julie
132 posted on 11/23/2005 11:17:40 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (God bless America , President Bush and our brave troops!)
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To: smoothsailing; Joe Brower; MinuteGal

Leni & Joe:

Here's a column you will enjoy!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Julie


133 posted on 11/23/2005 11:19:40 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (God bless America , President Bush and our brave troops!)
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To: stuartcr

Those without any class or a sense of propriety do. (AKA, the liberals in my family).


134 posted on 11/23/2005 11:20:40 AM PST by Serb5150 (P!ss off a liberal - wish them a Merry Christmas.)
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To: dead

Lucky you!

I not going home this year and having dinner with my friend and her family in Westchester. Her hubby is hard-core left wing old hippy and his brother is a outspoken self proclaimed communist.(who works for the city of course). Her parents are Republicans from New Jersey and she is liberal, but not doesnt care about politics.

Should be interesting.


135 posted on 11/23/2005 11:21:26 AM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: smoothsailing
(Hey, nifty boat!) :)

Thanks-- you're free to use this link: http://peteann.hypermart.net/freepix/sailboat_e0.gif with my compliments. Think of it as an early Festivus present. ;-)

136 posted on 11/23/2005 11:24:59 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: highlander_UW
LOL! Last year I parked my John Deere in the front with a "Bush Country" poster on it..
137 posted on 11/23/2005 11:25:56 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Alia
He knows! :)
138 posted on 11/23/2005 11:31:03 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Howlin
Funny, we had this discussion on ATRW this morning. We exchanged strategies on how to deal with relatives who want to bring up politics so that they can attack President Bush (and us).

I am well-prepared. I think the day that I walked out of the room (in my own house) while my sister was starting in may have conveyed the message. I will not tolerate it. People can keep their mouths shut and discuss something else (gardening, movies, children, home decor, television, etc.) or I am outta there. The alternative is me going nuclear, and since I am the oldest I feel I have a responsibility to keep the family together.

By the way, I have noticed two things:

1. It is always democrats who bring up the political arguing. They somehow feel compelled to insult and ridicule the President and conservatives in a family setting.

2. It is only since the Clinton administration started that the political disagreements in my family have become so acrimonic. My family has always been divided politically, but until about 15 years ago any discussions were simply good-natured ribbing. Since Clinton came to office, it can quickly deteriorate into all-out war. I blame Clinton's example of the constant campaign, the war room, and personally attacking all of his opponents.

139 posted on 11/23/2005 11:34:10 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Lady Jag

BARFMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


140 posted on 11/23/2005 11:36:58 AM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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